Possible trade of Juwan Howard for Tyson Chandler and Kirk Hinrich?

Hinrich is untouchable.

 

I wouldn't mind if Houston could trade Howard for Chandler straight up & then use the TE to take a guy like Williams off their hands. That would definetely shore up our PF issue with both players complimenting each other. Chandler would be the offensive "threat" at PF while Williams would do the defensive dirty work. I could then imagine the Rockets turning around and trading Mo Taylor for a guy like Van Exel or Antonio Daniels. That would still leave use the MLE to improve our PG position or depth at C or SG/SF.

This is all contingent on Les Alexander being willing to take on those contracts. Houston looks to be close to the cap after this deal goes through so we'll see.

 

No chance at getting Hinrich. But I think we might be able to work something out for Jerome Williams. He would be a great bench role player for our team. Providing hustle and fire off the bench. Not really an offensive option but a good defender and great rebounder. This team could use someone like him.

 

The drafted Gordon with the 3rd pick man.....they NOW have on roster

J. Crawford

Kirk Hinrich

B. Gordon

Chris Duhon

4 point guards on the squad...doesn't that look funny to you?

If the Bulls were hot for Juan Howard last year, then they should be still because all he did was average his normal 17pts and 7 boards a game. That's all he does! (that's pretty good) Matter of fact. Juan is a pretty damn good player and his contract isn't that bad. I can see the Bull asking for him, Boki and a future #1 for Chandler , baggage salary and ONE of their point guards (most likely Chris Duhon)

 

Sorry Max, didn't mean to sound harsh

 

Howard to Minny
Sczerbiak to Chicago
J.Williams or ERob and Chandler or Heinrich to Houston?

 

If Chicago were to offer us one of these two packages for Howard/Boki/future #1 which one would you take?

Chandler/Williams/Duhon

or

Chandler/Robinson/Duhon

 

Absolutely true.

Also, Yao needs some money when he gets his max extension in two years. Well - there it is. AD retires, Yao gets paid. It's all good. Meanwhile, AD is serviceable at two positions.

To get these guys - you have to come up with the whole 13.8 million in Rocket salaries - so exit Taylor and Spoon, we take AD.
We keep Howard. If that's too bitter for Chicago, shoot - exit both Howard and Taylor. Fine. 8 mil for Taylor and 6.5 for Howard leaves us with a little wiggle room at 14.5 total. Chicago could throw someone in with a vet minimum, like Kendal Gill. I think we want less guys anyway, if we can - we can fill our own roster.

Then, with the TE in a seperate deal, we pick up the guy we want - Chandler, or Hinrich. Sweet. Chandler is on the outs - so I'd think it's more likely him.

Now, Chicago has serviceable vet power forward help to go with Curry and Crawford and the point guard they keep. They also have the TE to go and get a vet they like.

I'd just as soon keep Howard, who I think is perfectly serviceable, but I'm willing to pay Chicago to take Taylor, who I detest. I think I would take AD and JYD if Chicago would take Taylor, Spoon and TE. I could live with that, just knowing the contracts were better.

 

as long as hinrich is included in that deal i don´t care... exactly what the rockets need.... paas first pg.....

 

Rox225- The "SF to groom behind Pippen" for Chicago was picked #7 overall. His name is Luol Deng. Further, unless we've got things settled forget about any Howard/Boki package.

Why would Chicago want Taylor's huge contract with 3 years left when Davis and Robinson's are only 2 years, and Jerome Williams' is for less dollars?

Ben Gordon is slated to play the 2 guard for Chicago, he's very strong for 6-3 and has fairly long arms, plus Hinrich has very good size for a PG. Crawford, a restricted free agent prepared to ask for a boatload of money, is likely on the outs.

Again, the Bulls may have wanted him last year, but they've picked up Davis and JYD since then- I don't see them so desperate for Howard, and I think they look to move Chandler in other deals before acquiring a 31 year old PF with 5 years left on his contract.

The Howard/Sczerbiak three-way is an interesting idea. The Bulls have had overtures on Wally for years now. I can't imagine they'd want his contract though, it's pretty hideous.

 

If I was GM of the Bulls I wouldn't trade Chandler for anything short of a proven All-Star. The guy is 21 years old with excellent size and all the tools needed to blossum into a star in this league. The only thing holding him back are injuries and a winning team.

 

He's not untouchable. It's just unlikely the Rockets can put together any package to get him. Hinrich will still run the point for Chicago and Gordon will likely compete with Crawford, if he stays, at the two guard. It's more likely that Chicago will look to move Crawford, as he will be looking for a contract after the upcoming season, and Chandler sometime this offseason.

 

Luol Deng slipped from my memory, but that still doesn't mean that Nachbar would not be a good addition. Pippen has one year left & then the heir goes to Deng, but would it hurt to have someone like Nachbar as a backup to Deng?

I agree that Gordon could play the two, that's why I think even thinking about Hinrich is a pipe dream. The Bulls are not going to give away Hinrich, but may part ways with Duhon. As you said, I think Crawford is on his way out as well.

As far as Mo Taylor goes, yeah his salary is a year longer than Davis, but Davis eats up almost half of their salary cap. Why would they do it? Because I doubt having two of the same type of players has helped them. Davis and Williams are near prototypes of each other. Neither is an effective scorer, but both are rebounders. In essence, the Rockets could take two bad contracts off of their hands in exchange for one by using the TE. The same goes for Howard. He puts up more PPG than Davis & Williams combined. That's why they'd still want him as a PF, because the other two are the exact same player.

 

I susect that we have some sort of agreement with the Bulls that will be anounced after we get mcgrady. I think we might get Ben Gordan and Eddie robinson for the trade excemption. This is all being done covert style so Wiseass cant start asking for Ben G. in the Tmac deal.

Waita go CD.

 

So money for the #3 pick in the draft & a bad contract player? Jim Paxson isn't that dumb, and I don't know if Carroll is that smart.

 

from the title of the post you have no idea how good heinrich currently is, and how much potential that chandler and heinrich still have!

 

Well the Bulls are most likely frustrated with both Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry. I could actullay see them giving up on Chandler if his attitude and work ethic are as poor as some people describe.

I can see the Bulls giving Curry more time because he is a center which we all know is a rare position to find the right player.

Hinrich is as untouchable as Yao Ming.

 

From this article it sounds like the Bulls aren't ready to give up on Chandler.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...sbits,1,5007494.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines

Paxson complimented Chandler's commitment thus far this off-season, calling him "steady, reliable and focused."

 

In these times of freaking unbelievable frustration, when I can identify Weinjerky as mine enemy, I remember the Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. Though a host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident...and when this gets done I will sing HALLELUJAH!!!!!!


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This trade is - unfortunately - completely unrealistic. NIKEStrad has, as usual, hit the nail on the head.