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Possible Radiological Attack on US

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  1. BEXCELANT

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    www.debka.com


    DEBKAfile Exclusive: New Al Qaeda threat of radioactive truck attacks naming New York, Los Angeles, Miami
    August 12, 2007, 8:48 AM (GMT+02:00)




    The threat was picked up by DEBKAfile’s monitors from a rush of electronic chatter on al Qaeda sites Thursday, Aug. 8.
    The al Qaeda communications accuse the Americans of the grave error of failing to take seriously the videotape released by the American al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gaddahn last week. “They will soon realize their mistake when American cities are hit by quality operations,” said one message.
    Another said the attacks would be carried out “by means of trucks loaded with radio-active material against America’s biggest city and financial nerve center.”
    A third message mentioned New York, Los Angeles and Miami as targets. It drew the answer: “The attack, with Allah’s help, will cause an economic meltdown, many dead, and a financial crisis on a scale that compels the United States to pull its military forces out of many parts of the world, including Iraq, for lack of any other way of cutting down costs.”
    There is also a message which speaks obliquely of the approaching attacks easing the heavy pressure America exerts on countries like Japan, Cuba and Venezuela.
    DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources and monitors say there is no way of gauging for sure how serious these threats are, how real, or whether they are part of a war of nerves to give the Gaddahn tape extra mileage. But it is important to note that the exchange of messages took place over al Qaeda’s internal Internet sites and that they contained the threat of radioactive terror and specific American cities for the first time after a long silence on these subjects.
    In addition, a growing number of clips has been disseminated of late over al Qaeda sites instructing the faithful how to design remote-controlled gliders, pack them with explosives and launch them against predetermined targets.


    DEBKAfile CLARIFIES ITS DISCLOSURE OF AL QAEDA’S RADIOLOGICAL THREAT TO NEW YORK
    August 13, 2007, 9:19 PM (GMT+02:00)
    At midnight Thursday, Aug. 9, DEBKAfile’s monitors of terrorist Web sites and forums connected the messages accumulating from midday. They spelled out an al Qaeda threat mentioning New York, Los Angeles and Miami as targets of attacks “by means of trucks loaded with radioactive material.” Our counter-terror sources and monitors stressed “there is no way of gauging for sure how serious these threats are, or how real.”
    Monday, Aug. 13, the chatter continues.
    Such disclosures are the daily content of DEBKAfile – not only about al Qaeda, but terrorist organizations in the Middle East and other parts of the world. We believe that holding back such information would be irresponsible and wrong and possibly expose people in targeted countries, most predominantly the United States and Israel, to danger. After this data is aired on our free site, our job is done and it is up to the relevant security authorities to decide how to deal with it.
    In this case, the New York Police Department very properly responded.
    After 24 hours, during which time the department almost certainly put its vast resources to work to research and assess the DEBKAfile disclosure, security was increased throughout Manhattan and on tunnels and bridges, with radioactivity sensors posted on vehicles, boats and helicopters.
    The New York police came up with a further piece of information which was not sourced to DEBKA suggesting that a dirty bomb may go off on Friday evening around 34th Street in Manhattan, where the Empire State Building, Madison Square Garden and Macy’s department store are located.
    At that point, something quite irrational happened: The NYPD’s sensible precautions generated a flood of media recriminations against… DEBKAfile. Unbridled, gratuitous assaults on this publication’s credibility came from the publications which missed the story, prominently Associated Press, the International Herald Tribune and FoxNews.
    Reuters, to its credit, covered the episode fairly and professionally.
    With regard to DEBKAfile’s record, our readers may recall that in 2003, our counter-terror sources exposed the massive recruitment campaign al Qaeda ran worldwide for an army of jihadis to fight US forces in Iraq under the command of a Jordanian terrorist called Abu Musab al Zarqawi.
    Again, in 2005 - and up until the present - we warned that al Qaeda was building networks in Egyptian Sinai and the Gaza Strip.
    Had the powers-that-be responded in timely fashion to these advance alerts, the situation in both troubled places might have evolved differently.
     
  2. hotballa

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    it was scaled back after a couple of hours. there were massive checkpoints setup especially in Chinatown in NYC. I was actually there when it happened :(
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    If they want troops out of the middle east, wouldn't they do better not to attack us and than to remind us why we are in the middle east?
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Be careful what you read, DEBKAFile is the equivalent of weekly world news and run out of some nut's basement.
     
  5. Refman

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    While this may or may not be true...hotballa was there when they set up checkpoints.

    Sounds like a little more substantial than just a guy in his mother's basement.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    In the event of a dirty bomb, the ensuing panic will cause far greater damage than the casualties affected by the explosion and radioactive materials.

    If the public thought it wasn't a big deal (as big as other bombs for example) then it wouldn't be a big deal...
     
  7. SamFisher

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    there are regularly police checkpoints in lower manhattan. In fact all of park row has been a police checkpoint for six years. There has been one on lower broadway by liberty street in the mornings for as long as i can remember.

    I didn't see a damned thing or hear anything today, and I live on 32nd street, two blocks from the site of the alleged attack.

    Debkafile is garbage run by a bunch of israeli conspiracy theory nutbags. Not worth sh-t.

    hopefully it will drive real estate prices down as I am looking to buy.
     
  8. Major

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    You may not have seen it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/nyregion/12alert.html?hp

    Paul J. Browne, the city’s chief police spokesman, said the department began tightening security on Friday evening near bridges and tunnels in Lower Manhattan and by sea as a precaution, while checking with intelligence agencies to determine if there was any validity to the threat.

    Clusters of police officers stopped and searched trucks and sport utility vehicles in Lower Manhattan, and extra radiological sensors were sent out in police cars, helicopters and boats. The extra deployment was ended by midday yesterday after the department determined that no other agency could confirm the threat, Mr. Browne said.


    NYC considers it a bit more than a crackpot site, and they've been accurate & had news before the mainstream media on a lot of things in the past. Higher failure rate though - that's the tradeoff between being legit and passing information along faster, I guess.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Debakfile has been "right before" in the same way that DaDakota is a genius for thinking Yao Ming was going to be successful in the NBA. Go back and read their archives. Some of their stories are highly amusing.
     
  10. hotballa

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    I was in Chinatown around 11PM on Friday Night when it happened. There were police cars on every block and every car that wsn't a sedan was getting checked. Trust me, it was a substantial show of force.

    lol good luck with that. battery park city condo prices are probably one of the highest in the city now.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    That's because the real estate monkeys thought there was going to be a bonus season this year.
     
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    Here comes the boogey man.
     
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    DD thinks every overseas player that comes to the rockets will be successful
     

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