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Positives in the Texans 2008 season

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DreamRoxCoogFan, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. MadMax

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    :D

    my expectation was 5-6 wins. they're right on target, and i'm still frustrated with them. perhaps i'm not as learned as you...or don't have all the right information. that's how i feel about it, though.
     
  2. moestavern19

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    Anyone who thinks Juice Williams would turn this team around is a complete idiot.

    He's Michael Bishop.


    Who?


    yeah, thought so.


    Anyway...

    As a casual observer with extensive football expertise I'd offer this little maxim regarding the Texans

    The Texans passing game production is directly proportional to the education of Duane Brown...
     
  3. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    How dare fans expect a team not to start 0-4 in their seventh season when they haven't even sniffed the playoffs in the previous six. You impatient bastards.
     
  4. updawg

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    So...
    1.)The fans should set their expectations low.
    2.)The team should suck.
    3.)Everything is fine.

    If thats the way this franchise expects it to be then I want no part of them.

    Nobody, thought they would be superbowl contenders this year, but come on, enough with the free passes.

    I expect some progress. With 5 mins left in the game, I knew it was a long way from being over. That shouldn't be normal.

    This team needs to learn to win and stop relying on excuses.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    i'm just an unfrozen caveman lawyer...

    if you thought 5-6 wins... why the frustartion? seems like an odd disconnect since they're not underachieving by your own expectations. they've played one truly awful game, and i think pittsburgh would win that game, in that same situation, that convincingly, 20 times in a row.

    otherwise, they beat themselves in tennessee and against indianapolis and lost a coin flip in jacksonville. in 2-3 years, those are games they'll win. just not now.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    you forget this is a texas board, bishop's from the huntsville area. anyway they're different players, both run and throw, but bishop was actually drafted by the patriots. for all his faults throwing, he had a cannon.

    i would say juice is more like randle el with probably a more legit shot at playing qb. maybe more like kordell stewart
     
  7. Hey Now!

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    again, that's a bottom line approach, and everyone's entitled to whatever approach they wanna take...

    but EVERYTHING has context. case in point: ok, they're 0-4. but they've gotten definitively better each week (leaps and bounds). and they did it against 4 GREAT teams, 3 on the road. they now have a 4-week window against teams a step or 12 below pit, ten, jax and ind.

    if you simply looked at their record, you'd have absolutely no reason to be excited about these next 4 weeks. "they suck; who cares?" right? but if you've watched them each week put more and more things together... well, there's a reason for being optimistic right now.

    i'm not predicting it... but i would not be shocked if they finish 4-4 at the halfway point.
     
  8. verti89

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    Ok first off its not the record but the how that is most ridiculous. The steelers are good but not exceptional. The titans are very good and the jags are too. All I hear is excuses though. In the titans game kubiak was a clown not challenging the deep pass among other things, in the jags game we let a garrard run up the middle 3 times in a row like it was madden or something. And in this game yea sage blew it but what the heck was he doing scrambling. I am just curious as to how with 4 minutes left, a 10 point lead, and against the 2nd worst run defense you do anything but run it every single play. Even if they went 3 and out every time they would have taken the clock down and forced indy to actually try to win. Whatever I think kubiak should be on a very hot seat with the foot of every houstonian on his back ready to shove him off when we lose to miami. Which by the way in case we haven't noticed has beat the pats and the chargers now...
     
  9. moestavern19

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    And the Patriots also blew picks on Kliff Kingsbury and Rohan Davey before discovering Brady could play.

    I'm just making a generalization comparison, I'm not saying Juice is the same player... just saying he's a similar specimen. He had a nice game against a Michigan program in full rebuild mode, but based on what I've seen of him he'll have to improve a lot if he wants to play QB in the NFL.
     
  10. msn

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    I have to agree. Why are we having to look under rocks for reasons to be optimistic? Well, if you dismiss the hurricane, and the long road trip, and the this, and the that........

    Bottom line: they beat themselves. Over and over. The only game they didn't beat themselves was Pittsburgh. Nice.

    Even in year three of Kubiak, we should expect better than the QB forgetting lessons we all learned in junior high.

    And, the whole dismissing the first five years isn't playing well with me.

    7 years of ineptitude and incompetence and counting.
     
  11. Kam

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    The man's name is Juice. That is sooooooooooo cool and hip hop and cool.

    Juice.

    Juice Williams.

    Juice.
     
  12. Uprising

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    Positives? Super Mario.

    Negatives? Sage...

    In all, at least the Texans are competing, and sort of looking better. Two last min. loses in a row, it's been tough but at least they have a pulse.
     
  13. moestavern19

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    Hell, the Chiefs have had some great talent and great coaching, and they haven't won a playoff game in like 15 years.

    Sometimes the problem is who is running the show, sometimes the problem is the management(coaching) and sometimes its just that the employees just aren't that good.

    You guys are stuck in a rut, welcome to the NFL... you don't start a franchise and then 7 years later wonder why the Lombardis aren't rolling in.

    There are other teams out there that have been doing this a lot longer than you have.
     
  14. desi tmac91

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    Juice Williams huh? Looked up about him and seems pretty good.

    I thought Matt Stafford was the best QB in the draft. Juice will be available in later rounds.
     
  15. MadMax

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    because i hope for more. because it's not science.
     
  16. rpr52121

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    You never know. Maybe we're secretly using the Tampa Bay Ray's blueprint which is to be a complete afterthought for 10 years before getting to the playoffs and the 2nd round.
     
  17. percicles

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    LT baby!!!!
     
  18. ima_drummer2k

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    Mario is proving that last year was not a fluke. He is the real deal. Teams are game planning for him and he is STILL getting to the QB. Guy is a monster and the Mario/Reggie/Vince debate is pretty much ancient history now. Even the UT people are finally starting to come around.

    And remember when the Oilers started 1-4 and won the next 11?

    The last 2 games were flukes IMO, but those types of games can be more devastating to team (and fan) moral than blowouts.

    I will stick with this team, just like I did during the Oiler 7 playoff losses in a row era. I will b**** and complain to no end, as is my want, but I will begrudgingly stick with them.

    Let just say I’m betting long.
     
  19. MadMax

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    I'm with you. Though I might be DVRing this game and heading to the park with my boys on Sunday, instead. Missed out on a beautiful Sunday afternoon this last week.
     
  20. Hey Now!

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    so going 0-4 against the steelers, titans, jags and colts is the same as going 0-4 against the rams, bengals, chiefs and raiders?... going 0-4 while looking each week every bit as bad as they did in week 1 against the steelers is the same as getting definitively better (and closer to victory) each and every week?...

    i don't think either "excuse" requires turning over a bunch of tiny little pebbles until you find 'em - these are giant, can't-miss rocks. it doesn't mean anything - they may go 0-16. but if you want a reason to still watch, get excited, etc. - these are legitimate positives and it sure as hell beats looking only at the results and concluding your time can be better spent elsewhere.

    fans are so impatient. take the astros - remember everyone (with a few, coughcough, notable exceptions) ripping them to shreds when they "wasted" money and prospects on wolf and hawkins? no one would listen to reason; no one would let the scenarios play out: they had formed their opinion, dug in their heels in, and that was that. lalalalalalalanotlistenintoyoulalalalalala....

    i don't think, nor have i ever thought, the texans are playoff-bound. but i think they're pointed in the right direction. i think this regime is going to get them there. and i see a lot of things to like about this team. let's see what they can do the next 4 weeks - you know, the halfway point of the season - before we write them off.
     

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