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Positives from Week 1

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. Fulgore

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    Positives for me: JJ Watt, Nate Washington, and Hop. Mallet looked ok his short time out there.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Mallett, and the D showed up in the 2nd half.

    DD
     
  3. conquistador#11

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    hey hey, take that kind of talk to the hangout.:p
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ryan Mallett: 'I'm going to prepare every week like the starter, whether that's the case or not.'</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/643188117156024320">September 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  5. whag00

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    Watching this Broncos game and if Flucker is out for a while for the Chargers the Chiefs can definitely win the division.
     
  6. Texanasiafan

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    Did you actually watch the game?

    The Chiefs had 5sacks today, part of the reason of course our QB sucks, and of course our Oline has issues, but the bigger problem remains, this team has almost zero run game and our air attack is one dimensional.

    The second turnover by Hoyer is ver obvious, that's coverage sack turned into a strip sack fumble, he has about 4-5 seconds in the pocket with no where to throw.

    Check the game thread, after the Texans came back with their first TD, I mentioned : the difference between the Chiefs and Texans offense is :

    The Chiefs got lots of screen an roll out by th RB and many nice routes by their TE, while the Texans almost purely going to their WR, this is not going to substain and we will have turnovers sooner than later.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Perhaps, but that would be mostly due to the rest of the division being a lot worse than most people expected. Kelce is a beast, but the Chiefs really don't have that much by way of offense....even if the Texans secondary helped make them look that way.
     
  8. Two Sandwiches

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    To answer your previous question, yes I know what a prevent defense is. I'd like to pose the same question to you because on Mallett's touchdown drive, that was not a prevent defense. They were blitzing and draping receivers. I had a very crappy, choppy feed and I can recognize this.

    So, I assume you want to roll with Hoyer? Hoyer had virtually the same window Mallett did, all day, on his throws and couldn't hit jack. Hoyer looked nervous, and timid. He was wildly inaccurate and made horrible decisions. O'Brien said he was the opposite, and thus the reason he was the starter. Mallett was more accurate, on the whole, looked poised, and made decent decisions. Because of that, coupled with his cannon, which can actually showcase Hopkins, you start Mallett.

    The offensive line looked like absolute garbage and did nobody favors, though.

    If you think Hoyer would have scored those last ten points, you're kidding yourself. He might have gotten three, but in all probability, he would have missed a wide open receiver on a 3rd and 8 because that's what he did all game.


    You say O'Brien waved the flag on the draw play? To an extent he did. I take it you are a fairly new fan to football (not judging...I love that, to be honest). What O'Brien did was realize that we still had some time left. He handed off to avoid any kind of safety or interception to kill the game. He was trying to get a little more breathing room for a punt and live for another drive.

    Had he thrown in the flag, he wouldn't have had Mallett in (IIRC he put him in after this play). And he wouldn't have let Mallett try and score and bring us back. O'Brien is a great coach. He realized the game was probably lost. He realized Hoyer was ineffective and he had told him he had a short leash. So, what'd he do? He gave Mallett one more chance. Mallett aced it, aside from winning the game. O'Brien isn't Kubiak. He's not going to hold onto a quarterback in the hopes of getting something that's not there. He's also not going to make an announcement of a new starter based off emotion. He'll review film, let the team know tomorrow or Tuesday, and then let us know. There is no way he'd tell the media before he'd tell his team. That's the opposite of what he's about. Love the guy. I love that he went to Mallett when he did. It was the perfect move.
     
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  9. ghettocheeze

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    Positives:

    1. Hopkins is playing like a top 5 wide receiver and may as well enter that group this year.
    2. Mallett looks like a good game-manager with the ocassional spurt on offense that looks really good.
    3. The defense held its own in the 2nd half when not asked to compensate for Hoyer's turnovers.
    4. Everyone but the Titans lost in week one so we're good on that frontin the division.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    I was going to respond to that joker, but you did a better job than I probably would have done.
     
  11. DAROckets

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    Clowney played and nobody got hurt
     
  12. Texanasiafan

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    The real issue with some of the Texans fan is this : you always "assume".

    Many assume we have a great defense, assume we can get through with a group of RB until Foster will come back, assume our last few years drafts still produced a group of decent players, and of course, assume either Hoyer is better than Mallet,

    Or in your case, Mallet is better than Hoyer.

    While the real issue that they never realize is : how do we ended up with a choice between Hoyer and Mallet?

    That's the real issue and that is the real reason why we are in this position.
     
  13. davidio840

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    Hoyer's career is over in Houston. Hopefully. He sucks so bad.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    It's not an assumption, it's based on what we've seen. Hoyer is terrible, Mallett is passable. Whine about the QB position all you want, but would you rather be Tampa Bay?
     
  15. Two Sandwiches

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    What was the alternative?


    Bridgewater, Garroppolo, Carr? Are we still living in the past? Yeah we screwed that up. We know that. I wouldn't have minded Bridgwater at 1. I was sold on him. I was heartbroken when Minnesota jumped us. Hindsight will always be 20/20. Doesn't mean there's an issue with the Texans fan base, or necessarily anything else.

    Just means that maybe we missed out. It happens every year to every team. It sucks that ours was pretty critical. Although if we had taken one of those guys, we'd be no further along than we are now, but we'd have a brighter future.
     
  16. what

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    That it's week 1 and there are still 15 games left to play.

    Not taking a qb is going to haunt this team for a long while. Blake Bortles ans Bridgewater might not be Mariota or Luck, but they certainly have upside and can still get better.
     
  17. Texanasiafan

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    I mentioned before so here we go again.

    Not every QB will work out to be decent, let alone great, we all know about it.

    But the most important key is : do you take the chance? Which in most cases, taking a risk for you franchise could come with reward and also bad endings. And when things turn bad, the decision makers will take the fall and lose their jobs.

    Obviously, everyone knows what kind of QB Fritz and Hoyer are, taking these guys instead going for anyone unknown obvious will take less risk, and I mean less risk to lose your job under this owner with a 8-8 record.

    This is the real issue why we were stuck at mediocre and goin no where.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL crazy BE-SF fan trying to equate Mariota and Luck after one game against the worst team in the NFL.....You guys need to stick to meth and give up on football.
     
  19. Two Sandwiches

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    I know what you're saying, and I agree with you to a certain extent. I think its too early in the O'Brien regime to say that he is worried about his job, for any reason, given our owner's history.

    I don't know why he didn't pull the trigger on any of those young guys. Only he could tell you that. Maybe they just got scooped up before we could get them.

    This has to be the year, though, unless Mallett proves to be the guy somehow. This draft has some good ones that should be within our range. Or even if we have to move up five spots.
     
  20. Texanasiafan

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    Mallet should be the starter last season when it started, if he really suck, then we move on to take another chance.

    That did not happen, but at the same time, it doesn't by default means he will be the answer.

    I know it's only one game and it probably mean nothing, but give the Bills to start an unknown over one washed up backup and a first round proven failure.

    It takes gut to do that and that's why this franchise lack of now.
     

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