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Position Rankings: Center (Sportsline.com)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rox4lyf, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. roxfan123

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    I thought we had no choices regarding the Boozer situation? Hayes did a better job than Yao (guarding Boozer) but you want Yao to chase Okur around the 3 point line? For the record, Okur was almost a no-show due to Hayes...
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    The dumbest thing about this article is that he's still talking about Shaq giving up his throne. Shaq hasn't been the best center in the league for a couple of seasons now.
     
  3. Rockets Dynasty

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    1. I can't believe ANYONE thinks Amare is better than Yao.

    2. It's even more shocking people prefer Dwight Howard to Amare.

    Look Amare only plays on one end of the floor. Dwight only plays on one end of the floor. NEITHER plays any defense at all.

    People saying Dwight has good D? Are you serious? To quote Bill Walton, they are HORRIBLE defenders. Both of them.

    Dwight is a better rebounder than Amare obviously, BUT at least on offense Amare has game. Sure Nash helps him a lot of course, but he does have game and he has considerably MORE offensive game than Kenyon Martin does. Dwight Howard's entire offensive arsenal is catch or grab the ball and dunk it. That is ALL HE CAN DO.

    He's still really young so he has plenty of time to get better. But clearly Amare is much better than him right now.

    And with Amare compared to Yao, until Amare learns there are two sides of the court the Amare/Yao discussion is still a joke to me.

    Even in FIBA Americas Dwight and Amare can't guard their own shadow even.
     
  4. ThePrivate

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    That's the truth. Shaq has been a part-time player (injuries) for the past 3 years!
     
  5. Yetti

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    You obviously don't realise that as humans we are limited by our God given gifts
    The gifts both in depth and quality vary from race to race. This seems like a deliberate act on the part of our Creator.Although fundamentally as children of God we all share the basic qualities. As man we can only work to develop these gifts depending on what we were given via our genetic makeup.

    The main deficiency in Yoa Ming's make up is stamina, not athleticism or determination. With proper management of his time on the court and continued stamina training Yao ming will be successful. :p
     
  6. leebigez

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    I think Yao is the best center in the league, but what bothers me about him is that he's not dominant in any area. He can score when given position, but he doesn't dominate through the game on both ends. He should always get 11rebs and always get 2 blks and 20 pts, but there are time when he kinda doesn't do much. he's a really good scorer, but after that, i dont know.
     
  7. zong

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    Amare is not a true center, he should complete with Duncan for the PF postion. Yao is the number 1 center, just aks Shaq. He would say he is no.1, and Yao is no. 2. then remoce Shaq, Yao is no. 1. But anyhow, it is not a big deal for this.
     
  8. ooliverb1

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    I always thought Marion is a bigger threat to Rockets than Amare. Every time he played well, Suns will win...
     
  9. Yao4REAL

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    Amare is overrated. Without Nash...he's just an average player.
     
  10. bladeage

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    I completely disagree with that statement. Amare is not better than Yao, we all know that, but he is a good big man, versatile, athletic and has developed his 12 foot jumper quite well. He lacks on defense because of how the Suns play, not because he just can't play it. D'Antoni has focused on using his strengths and making them stronger. Not adjusting his weaknesses. Amare is not asked to play defense, he is asked to run and score against the slower big men, because that style is beneficial to the Suns offense. NO ONE on the Suns plays defense. Their offense is their defense.
     
  11. Barkley

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    Amare's situation is completly different than Yao's in Houston. As bladeage wrote D'Antoni doesn't want Amare to play a lof of defense, he just has to score from that easy positions which Nash creates for him. Amare is not that big part of Suns as Yao is of the Rockets
     
  12. DonkeyMagic

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    offensively, yao is more well rounded and flat out better than amare.

    face up jumpers - yao
    back to the basket moves - yao
    face up blowing by people - amare
    passing - yao

    Face it, amare still has next to no back to the basket game and that hurts one as a "center"

    Defensively, again, the edge goes to yao. Neither are elite, however, yao can (and has) shut down the paint for long stretches. Of course yao can also get put in bad matchups b/c of his size and limited abilities but even considering that flaw, Amare is a horrible defender.

    Rebounding - Push- neither is very great. Amare, for no explainable reason except maybe effort, isnt a great rebounder. Yao is a phone booth rebounder limited by size and athleticism.
     
  13. Barkley

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    You have to say Amare is very very selfish player. I hate it. It doesn't matter for him if it's an ASG, or USA Team or season game he won't pass even if you're wide open. I hate that in Amare, but that's real truth
     
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    Excellent post. Yao is better than Amare. I don't think anyone disagrees. But it seems to me some guys here hate on Amare for no reason. He is not better than Yao but he is still a very good offensive big man.
     
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    U pretty much made me save my effort....agree ... agree ... agree.

    I think it's insane for anyone to take Amare over Yao.

    Amare is pretty much a power foward playing out of position, and based on previous performances....he is not going to shut down the paint like real centers do.

    He's a power foward, like Malone, Barkley, Webber, or Garnett. Most were very skilled offensively and pretty good defense (except Webber). I see him more in this kinda category than being with the likes of Shaq, Olajuwon, Mourning, Ewing, or Mutombo. No matter how good their teams were or how bad they are these players have certain impact in the paint defensively and offensively.

    As good and as athletic as Amare is, he is not as good Yao for the simple fact, he can't dominate paint like Yao can. If healthy, Yao can like some of centers mentioned above...because he is an overwhelming presence in post....he is one of the main reasons that Rockets always have the best post defense and points inside the paint. Besides, just because he's better athlete doesn't make him better player...Dominique was more athletic than Larry Bird....but does that make him a better player?

    Also, if Amare regularly got tripled or double team like Yao does, who wouldn't average 25 ppg....especially if there was no pg, like Nash around.

    But I can see, why people give him #1 over Yao, he's a very explosive player, scorer, is on one of the best teams in the league, and most critics hate Yao....so it makes sense.
     
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    It's not just the Suns system, Amare is really terrible on defense everywhere. Watch him in the FIBA Americas tournament. For a guy with his athleticism, he is suprisingly bad on defense. He has bad footwork on defense. Bill Walton was flabbergasted when someone mentioned that Amare wants to add a 3 point shot....Bill was like "How about working on some of the other areas.....like defense.
     
  17. Rockets Dynasty

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    I know. His defense in that tournament was pathetic to say the least.
     
  18. ReD_1

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    omg,what stupid article...
    yao ming is the best or the worse center in NBA ...
    not 2nd or 3rd...
     
  19. wreck

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    i cant stand amare's punk attitude. but i guess that is what this country rewards. if yao was meaner and talked more smack he'd get way more respect.
     
  20. Barkley

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    Yao is the best "real center" in the NBA...:)
     

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