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Portland offers deal to Milsap, Jazz on the clock

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DaDakota, Jul 10, 2009.

  1. worzel gummidge

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    Trading Boozer at the trade deadline won't get the Jazz under LT. Unless there's a team with a TE or cap space of $13M to trade with.

    Matching Blazers's offer adds an extra $8M or more to the Jazz payroll. Trading Boozer normally, ie less 25% and - 100k only reduces their payroll by about $2-3M.

    Millsap is gone.

    On a related note:
    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/07/blazers_preparing_offer_for_ut.html
    Portland's offer to Millsap is at the least $8M. That suggests Freeland & Koponen will be renounced. They lose those assets for nothing unless they can make a trade that doesn't affect their cap space.

    rights to Eliyahu & Lishouk (rights to 2nd picks don't count towards cap) to POR → rights to Freeland & Koponen
     
  2. A_3PO

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    The Blazers don't want anything to do with Boozer and the last thing they need is another early draft pick. Pritchard wants final pieces to their puzzle.
     
  3. saitou

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    I meant 1st round picks Freeland and Koponen
     
  4. peleincubus

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    if this is the only move that the blazers make (meaning they dont trade pryzbilla here HOPE THE HELL THEY DONT) they will have a very deep team.

    C Oden Pryz
    PF Aldridge Millsap

    thats a deep frontline.

    i still think in about 2 years the thunder will be better.
     
  5. saleem

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    Can the Grizzlies or any other team step in to help them?
     
  6. Mango

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    Thanks.

    I was trying to think of alternate scenarios since Pritchard has tremendous leverage over Utah at the moment.
     
  7. supa

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    The Jazz reall only have a few options that I can see without paying at least 7 million in Luxary tax:

    1) Match Milsap and go through with the original 3 way deal, still leaving Utah over the cap by roughly 4 million or 6 million, depending if they get Thompson or Tim Thomas.

    2) Get Oklahoma City to take Boozer in a salary dump and give them draft picks as incentive. OKC may hold them hostage for that Knicks pick though.
    (Memphis I cannot see doing it with Randolph coming in, but they may for a few draft picks)

    3) Trade with the Knicks for Mobley and a minimum contract player. The insurance money from Mobley would dave the Jazz abour 7.5 million on the bottom line but still leave them with a high tax number.

    4) Try to dump Boozer to Minnesota for a partial salary dump of aobut 5 million, not sure Minnesota wants anything to do with Boozer though with Love and Jefferson.

    5) Try to work a 3 way deal for a team to take back more than they are willing. This is where we can come in. Perhaps a 3 way trade with Detroit. Detroit is looking for another big man and wants more cap space for next year.
    T-Mac and Landry for Rip and Prince.
    Rip and Barry goes to Utah for Boozer, Harping, and Miles, or substitute Korver for Miles and add in a draft pick. I don't see Morey taking AK-47 with the situation the Jazz are in now.
    Houston takes back Prince, Harping, Boozer (10.3+6.5+12.7) $31.5 million. Plus add in Miles, or Korver and a draft pick. They can take up to $36.875, if they include the trade exception from Francis.

    It saves Utah anywhere from $8.1 million to $9.6 million and keeps them closer to the luxary tax window. It also gives them decent value for the situation they are in by giving them Rip, plus they keep Milsap.

    It would put us way over the tax, but with the insurance money from Yao, probably $12 million, they can use that to cover the taxes, and it gives great value for Mcgrady based on what we have been getting offered.
    Very complicated but we have a decent shot to get into the mix if Morey wants to and based on how bad Utah wants to avoid the tax.
     
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    The Grizzlies are the only team in the league with the cap space to absorb Boozers $12.7M contract. However they traded for Zach Randolph and it was more likely to help them meet the League's minimum team salary... I doubt they would want to add an extra $12M to their expenses.

    OKC have around $10M of cap space if they waive the non-guaranteed contracts of Atkins & Livingston. So they can't help.
     
  9. baller4life315

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    This chess match has been VERY interesting to watch. Sounds like Pritchard really has Utah backed into a corner and effectively put them in a situation where they can't (literally, can't) match the offer for Millsap. Is this the direction restricted free agency is headed in? Makes you wonder.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    Beg to differ. I think it's > 50% the Jazz will match. They absolutely must have Milsap back long-term. I also think Pritchard believes they will match and has another move up his sleeve in 7 days.

    Stay tuned. Whatever one thinks of Pritchard, I LOVE watching him put the Jazz in a bind.
     
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    Makes sense,but you never know what the stupid Grizzlies will do? Helping LA to a title with Pau and stepping in to help the Mavs get Marion and waiving Stackhouse. If West was their GM,none of this stuff would have happened.
     
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    I'm kind of getting the gist that everything that happens with regards to Millsap staying in Utah depends on their ability to move Boozer (with a low price tag too, if those Orlando trade exception rumors were true). I could be wrong, it just seems to me like Millsap's future in Utah depends on Boozer's with keeping Millsap being the ultimate goal.
     
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    Many agree with you. I just happen to think they MUST get Milsap back at all costs now. Boozer's bridge is burnt there and I can barely imagine him still on their team when training camp starts. Without Milsap filling in the gap, the Jazz will nosedive. They just have to take the cap hit this season.
     
  14. Mike Hunt

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    pritchard is kind of a douchebag lol

    He pretty much screws over teams, like the Jazz and the Rockets a few times
     
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    If Memphis would have shown some patience instead of rushing into the Randolph deal with the Clippers, they might have gotten Boozer on roughly the same terms and it would have been a one year rental instead of being married for an extra year to Zach.
     
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    That's asking too much of Chris Wallace.
     
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    I believe they wanted Zach partly because it prevents them from being major FA players in 2010. Normal logic doesn't apply to Memphis.
     
  18. worzel gummidge

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    That would've been Q-Rich for Boozer.

    If they retained Millsap in this scenario the Jazz would be around $7.4M over LT not including the 2 extra players they need to sign to meet the 13 man minimum.
     
  19. Mango

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    True in that scenario, but since Memphis still had room to absorb Stackhouse from the Toronto - Dallas trade after the Randolph trade, they might have been able to absorb Boozer's contract and still kept Q Richardson.

    There is a spread of several million between Zach's contract and Boozer's contract and an opportunity was lost for Utah to do something constructive and less painful than what they currently face.

    Even though Memphis is being questioned on their decisions, the Utah management should have been more proactive in setting up a potential deal for Boozer.

    It wasn't a secret that the Clippers were going to be overloaded in the 4/5 position and Memphis had Cap Space to absorb some salary. Since Memphis did the Randolph trade, either they thought Zach for two years was more desirable than Boozer for one year or else Utah failed to make a phone call to the Grizzlies to get ahead of the Clippers.

    <i>The First Loss is the Best Loss.</i>
     
  20. worzel gummidge

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    Stackhouse's contract is only guaranteed for $2 million. The Grizzlies got $3 million from the Mavs to waive him.
     

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