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Pops is waived...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DreamShakeFTW, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. bigrub

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    not really we lose a so called big to pick up a wing and a pg no thanks we need help upfront in the worst way chuck is not a valid starter
     
  2. Summer Song Giver

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    He went to Strake Jesuit, played with Clavin Murphy's son, and yes back then he was not someone I would have thought would have a nice long NBA career, it's good to be tall.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    From what I've read, Pops's contract didn't become fully guaranteed until December 22. I really think this was more about roster flexibility, just like Morey said. No hidden agenda here.

    The fact of the matter is that the Rockets, purely from a roster makeup standpoint, were frontcourt-heavy. They had 7 PF/Cs (Scola, Hayes, Landry, Andersen, Pops, Cook, Dorsey), 8 if you include Yao. Most teams only carry 5 or 6 PF/Cs. Meanwhile, the Rockets only have 2 PGs and 4 healthy wings (Ariza, Battier, Budinger, Taylor). When Chase went down with the tweaked ankle, Adelman was forced to play Ariza and Battier too many minutes. (Taylor just isn't ready yet, and I'm guessing that Adelman wants to keep him around to learn in practice. My guess is that he won't be sent down to RVG until T-Mac comes back.)

    Like others have said, waiving Pops BEFORE a trade makes no sense, when they could just as easily have waived him at the time of the trade. This was done as a courtesy to Pops, since he WAS caught in a numbers game (like Morey said) and COULD catch on with another NBA team. The roster flexibility will enable the Rockets to quickly add another PG or wing, either now or if/when another injury happens to a Rockets PG or wing.
     
  4. RV6

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    define "thin"....when you say thin in terms of basketbal rosters/positions, it usually means you dont have enough guys there.....and we definitely have enough guys....likei said before, we dont need quantity over quality, we already have that, stockpiling centers doesn't magically improve the talent at the spot unless we can combine them all to make a super center or something, but we can't.

    Now if people are using "thin" to describe the physical appearance of our centers, then that's not how it's usually used and is different from what i'm refering to..
     
  5. cheke64

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    Pops was just not improving and his jumper was ugly.
    When do those over-paid trainers/shooting coach get held accountable? From battier's unathleticness to hayes free throw. I can do a better job at training them seriously.
     
  6. RV6

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    You can't always teach hand movement/coordination. If you could then there would be a lot more pro athletes out there. It's not a simple as "listen to wha ti say then do it"....sometimes the dimensions of their limbs, types of muscles fibers, etc. get in the way.
     
  7. cheke64

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    Its very easy to make somebody shoot better and jump higher. 2 years ago was my first rockets game and couldnt believe rafer sidewinder deform shot. Somebody has to work one on one with him maybe even private (cause of their ego) and reconstruct their form. What happens is they pay trainers to be ballboys, so they keep shooting 1,000 ugly shots a day.
     
  8. RV6

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    athleticism isn't only jumping higher. It involves flexibility, agility, and power....meaning strength, speed, balance and others are also involved. Your body composition, along with your genetic make up play a huge role in that. Unless you're telling me you can replace muscle fibers and genes, it's not that easy at this level, maybe if you're training the average person who's never trained or exercised much.
     
  9. t-mac_#3_SG

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    I'm curious to see who will be the one to take his place...
     
  10. cheke64

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    Dont blame genetics,but please blame the lack of knowledge. I couldnt touch the net when I was 18 6'1 170 lbs, now im 233lbs 6'1 dunking. Its about who you know ,not what you know that can get you a job nowadays.
     
  11. smuduffy

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    I wish they would have let Cook explore his options elsewhere, instead of Pops. Not a big loss, but he seemed like an exciting player to watch develop, but no time for that here I guess.
     
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    Don't get your hopes up about a trade coming soon. Yall are reading way too much in this waive.
     
  13. RV6

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    Then why aren't you playing in the NBA? Is it lack of knowledge that you're only 6'1? Why didn't you grow to 6'5 or 6'6, it should be "easy". Probably should go for 7'6.

    Lack of knowledge plays a role, but you're mistaken if you believe knowledge fixes everything athletically. You're dealing with bodies with DNA that predetermined most of their max limits.
     
  14. cheke64

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    Do you want to blame size of testicles for not being aggressive Mr.Biology?
    I wasnt into sports till I graduated from high school.
     
  15. RV6

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    i guess testosterone plays a role in aggression to a certain extent, so i guess technically you could relate it to testicle size, but that's further that i would take it :)

    i get what you mean, there's some athletes, like tmac has shown, that stick to what they're familiar with and don't progress like they could because of it, but i think it's unfair to imply every pro athlete whos lacking in a certain area just lacks knowledge and isn't trying or doing the right thing/training.
     
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    Just to touch on this,

    Pops is not the woe is me, whiny complainy type of player. The guy shuts his mouth and buckles down to do whatever's required of him. I spoke with him after the Mavs game and talked to him about his situation outside RA's rotation and all he did was go on about how he's just going to keep working and improving to earn RA's trust.
    I guess Dork Elvis knew he'd be cut and wanted to give him time to find another team, but c'mon, this doesn't seem like the right time.

    Oh well-In Morey we're supposed to trust. :(
     
  17. topfive

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    While I don't think this move will impact the team in any significant way, I have to say that I hate to see Pops go. He was one of those rare athletes who seems to play with joy -- always looks like he's having fun out there. The NBA is such a high-pressure environment, especially for guys at the end of the bench, for whom a few minutes of PT can mean the difference between a $1-million NBA contract and a much smaller D-league one, so it's always refreshing to see someone like Pops who always looks like he's having fun out there.

    Just not at the expense of WINS, of course. :p
     
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    If it's about who you know and not what you know. Couldn't you acquire the knowledge to meet people and network? Maybe you don't know the right people, because you choose not to learn.

    I met a very successful guy that a friend knew. This guy didn't know many people when he was younger. He learned where to meet more successful people. He joined a ski club in Texas(yes they exist) and was able to become more successful. Did his "book" education change alot? nope. He learned the important stuff like making connections with people in a hobby that attracts successful people.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Well, I kind of wish we had never signed David Andersen, Pops is a better player.

    DD
     
  20. topfive

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    You forgot "defensive."
     

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