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Pope Voices Support For Same Sex Civil Unions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bobrek, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    So. it is their right to govern their perishioners
    Why should anyone care . . . . .beyond Catholics.

    No Government should be involved
    Government should be out of the marriage business . .. PERIOD!!

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  2. ElPigto

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    I don't understand how gay people can believe in the Christian God. Isn't the Bible clear of how it feels about homosexuals?
     
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  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    With all the "benefits" married couples have (property, taxes, hospital visits, estate settlement, etc.), government has to be involved.
     
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  4. Rocket River

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    Why do they get these benefits?
    Why can these not be done through contracts and agreements?

    The problem is . . .. if you do this for couples. . . why not Throuples? Same Sex? or any other "Groupings" of people
    Why give special privileges to some people based on their relationship status?

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  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The problem is that it is entrenched in our system. For example, as an employee, you can generally add your spouse to insurance. Without being officially married in the eyes of the government, one could change spouses on a whim. If we have to start relying on contracts and lawyers to do all of this stuff, then that would be a huge expense that would leave many couples out.

    It's one of the reasons gays have been fighting for marital rights so that they can enjoy the same benefits a hetero couple enjoy.

    But you know all that.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    So many hinderences of progress is infrastructure
    Like we cannot get better internet because it means pulling up millions of miles of cable
    and replacing it with Fiber . .or what have you

    That same sentiment shows itself in the paperwork and bureaucracy and social movements
    Traditionalism . . . . we at somepoint are going to need to pull the isht up and throw it out

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    Only passing references, mostly Old Testament under Jewish law. Plus Jesus was quiet on the subject.
     
  8. Roc Paint

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    Mums the word Francis
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    I would like a large Thunderdome, and first I would throw in the Catholic Church vs Scientology.
     
  10. Roc Paint

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    I would much rather watch that then they WWE
     
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  11. ElPigto

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    I would think that makes it pretty clear, no? I know individuals like to pick and choose what they want to apply to their life and what they don't want to apply to their life, but I thought the passing references were pretty clear on how God feels about homosexuals.
     
  12. Space Ghost

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    We buy cars and houses with a mount of paperwork in contracts. Thats something that is protected by insurance and can be discarded at a whim.

    Making a commitment for life should be a little more difficult than slapping down some pocket change for a Vegas marriage.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    The winner gets the Baptists vs the Hindus.
     
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    The anti-catholic sentiment in here is strong
     
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    There is some discussion among more liberal Christians that the ancient Greek was mistranslated to "homosexual" in the 1940s. Here is a Methodist blog discussing the subject. Their point is that the ancient Greek "arsenokoitai" meant different things when Paul wrote his letters and is incongruous with modern perceptions of homosexuality. Rachel Held Evans wrote about this before died.

    How God feels about this doesn't seem to be easy to answer. Biblical literalists will say that it is, but their certainty feels shaky when translation and context are considered.
     

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