yes, i do disagree w/ W, and il Pape also. as for my vote, it wasn't predicated on this issue. and W held his own w/ gay voters compared to '00, getting around 21%. should they apologize as well? http://www.washblade.com/blog/index.cfm?blog_id=155 -- BLADE BLOG Bush wins same portion of gay vote as '00 Perhaps the most surprising news for gay observers of the presidential election is that exit polls show President Bush received the exact same percentage of gay votes — 23 percent — as he did four years ago. This despite the president's vocal support for a federal constitutional amendment banning gay marraige. According to the CNN exit poll, 4 percent of all voters identified as gay, lesbian or bisexual, the same percentage as four years ago, at least as reported by ABC News that year. By comparison, 11 percent of voters were black, 9 percent were Latino, 2 percent were Asian, and 3 percent were Jewish. In 1996, 5 percent of the electorate self-identified as gay. Democrat John Kerry did pick up a slightly higher tally of gay voters, however. Kerry received 77 percent of gay votes according to the NEP poll; Gore received 70 percent in 2000 according to ABC. Self-identified heterosexual voters went more heavily for Bush this year, 52-47 percent. In 2000, heterosexuals voted 48 percent for Bush and 47 percent for Gore. (Gore won the overall popular vote but lost the Electoral College). Some of that pickup in support for Kerry came from dwindling support for Ralph Nader, who picked up 3 percent of gay votes in 2000 according to ABC, and 0 percent in 2004 according to the NEP. Reform candidate Pat Buchanan received 1 percent of the self-identified gay vote in 2000 according to ABC, despite his strident anti-gay record. CNN reported slightly different exit poll numbers in 2000, with 71 percent of gay votes for Gore, 24 percent for Bush, 4 percent for Nader and 0 percent for Buchanan. In 1996, 23 percent voted for Republican Bob Dole, the same percentage as went for Bush in 2000 and this year. Some 66 percent of gays voted in '96 for Bill Clinton, whose enthusiasm among gay voters waned some after he signed the Defense of Marriage Act and agreed to the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy on gays in the military. UPDATE: The Washington Post exit poll confirmed roughly the same split among gay voters as the CNN poll. Among the 4 percent of all voters self-identifying as gay, lesbian or bisexual in the Post poll, 21 percent voted for Bush, 78 percent for Kerry and 2 percent for Nader.
I'm sure the closeted gay republicans like Governor Perry mostly voted for GWB because they are commitment-phobic.....
just as the closeted gay democrats like Hillary voted for John-I delivered-arms-to-the-khmer-rouge-and-all-i-got-was-a-hat-Kerry for the same reason.
and the analogy holds up well since the democratic party, and it's 2004 standard bearer, actively support gay marriage...oh wait, they don't!
Bassanio: Why are you trying to defend the GOP's stance on/standing with gays? Are you that much of a party man? Give it up already.
I have thought of a solution for the Pope. He won't need a another flood. If you send all the gay men to Mars, let them run amuck for about 125 years. And then send up the gay women to Venus, let them run amuck for about 125 years, how many more could there be left. If there is a flood, my biggest concern would be the gay zoo in London, because you don't want those animals getting on the arc.
am I wrong to hunger for the gentleness of your touch knowing I got somebody else at home who needs me just as much?
speaking of democrats, we know what JKF's position is. what's Hillary's stance on gay marriage? Teddy Kennedy's? he's a good catholic, non?
I am hung over right now. But anyway, when people take stances I disagree with (like whenever basso would bring up when Kerry voted for the war), I did not hesitate to say that he was wrong to do so.
I don't know why we even have homosexuality as an 'issue' in a political election. Its an individual's own rights to do what they want. Sexuality and marriage should be a personal issue and have NOTHING to do with the government. The Republicans are silly to be implementing their ideas of morality on anyone, especially with the actions of most politicians. The democrats and their silly social programs force government more unto our lives and thereby the government must be involved in what should be a social/non-governmental issue of marriage and sexuality. If anything, homosexuals should be irate at the democratic party for pushing social programs into the workplace which make company's have to decide about individuals lives. Just as these democrat policies and lawsuits are now forcing companies to fire people that smoke and get more involved in our lives. Both sides are sooo wrong on the issue. I believe in God and I don't particularly care for homosexuality, but just as I don't want my government or some religious person exacting his view of 'how the world should be' on me.
There's about 130m in Africa, so I'd say a lot. http://www.nbccongress.org/black-catholics/worldwide-count-black-catholics-01.asp of course, you can take any area of the overpopulated developing world and say that anybody who tries to influence people to avoid using birth control because of its "evil" nature, is being highly, highly irresponsible if not borderline criminal.
