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[Poll] How many games does this team win next season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by harold bingo, Jul 3, 2023.

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How many games does this team win next season

  1. <25

    6 vote(s)
    1.3%
  2. 25-28

    25 vote(s)
    5.3%
  3. 29-32

    70 vote(s)
    15.0%
  4. 33-36

    155 vote(s)
    33.1%
  5. 37-40

    114 vote(s)
    24.4%
  6. 41-44

    65 vote(s)
    13.9%
  7. 45+

    33 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. YOLO

    YOLO Member

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    nothing happens just like any other real life sports bet when a game pushes/ties. he set the line at 40 not 39.5 / 40.5
     
  2. Believe It!

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    If they all buy into Udoka's emphasis on ball movement and defense, I think they make a big jump. My guess 42 wins and the play in. AND I'm usually very conservative, just have a feeling they're going to be much improved. Now that they have a true lead guard, a potential defensive stud (get your head on straight DB) and most importantly a good coach, I think they flip the script. If Ben Sullivan is as good as they say, he should make a big difference. Jock is going to be a nice back up for Sengun. Jeff Green will be a great veteran mentor on the bench and in the locker room. The X Factor's will be Amen and Cam. Can they come out strong in bench roles? If so, we're going to have a really deep roster and be a tough matchup.

    42 is the number.

    FWIW
     
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  3. Believe It!

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  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Stone choked the living hell out of the team to achieve that record. Held Tate (one of our only vets) out forever. Started KPJ at PG. Didn't bother signing wing or rim protectors. Didn't bother signing a backup PG so we'd have at least one person competent at running the offense other than Sengun. Our "mentors" were Eric Gordon. Just Eric Gordon lol. Silas gave KPJ autonomy to run the team like a nightmare for the whole season. He wanted to bench Sengun for Bruno freaking Fernando. KPJ stopped even trying to appear to care about playing defense. It took them 50 games to realize Jabari is having confidence issues with his shot. This was all happening while Stone attended practices and interfered with coaching. He was meeting with assistant coaches without bothering to involve Silas. These are all easily correctible things with some basic coaching and signing vet minimum players who work hard and know their role.

    Any GM and coach given that team and allowed to sign players to the vet minimum to target wins would have won 30. No one - not even in the media - thought a team would tank this harshly. In fact I challenge you to name a team that has ever tanked harder than us. Of course we're not going to play to our highest potential in these conditions.

    Anyone who knew that's what we were going to be doing at the level above the players (coaching and management) would have agreed that we'd struggle to win 20. We didn't lose 60-something games because of a lack of talent. It was because they did literally every single thing to generate losses other than flat out telling the players to lose. They did tell the players winning doesn't matter, Silas repeated this in the media several times.

    I'm sure there are people who predicted we'd win 20, but that doesn't mean it was because their rationale was right.
     
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  5. jordnnnn

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    https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/amp...spurs-phoenix-suns/1q7z8kfmeqjs61hp0lr43rvd35

    The biggest year over year turnarounds in league history.

    Let’s just say most of these involved acquiring top 20-30 all time players or having one of those guys already who missed an entire season and were returning. And most of these teams were pretty veteran laden.

    Approaching 40 wins would put us fairly high on the list of biggest win jumps in nba history. And to do so without an all time player with a roster still very heavy on youth would make it one of if not the most unlikely huge win jumps in league history.

    I’m all for optimism. But also nothing wrong with being realistic.
     
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  6. xaos

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    Yeah, I think the Rockets org has a goal of winning 40+, but ultimately will fall short of that, but will still make a huge improvement (~15 games is a huge improvement). The best part about the improvement, I feel like it will be an improvement the team can build on as a foundation of their team as opposed to relying on one guy to "get us to the playoffs" just to lose in embarrassing fashion. Rockets have guys who are projected to be far more than role players and the current roster composition allows for those guys to grow into those roles. If they don't, at least we will have an answer to that question by the time our pick debt is paid off.
     
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  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I do like that a few of those turnarounds were linked to bringing in point guards (granted, they were some of the best PGs in history -- Nash, CP3, Kidd). We have brought in a new team leader and PG with FVV. The question is whether we have enough talent around him to win games. We certainly have some high draft picks surrounding him... but they are all young and haven't reached their full potential yet.
     
  8. rimrocker

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    Here's my prediction:

    Last year, a lot of teams coasted through 3 quarters knowing they could turn it on and beat us in the 4th. I expect that mentality to continue early in the season and I also expect the Rockets to win enough of those games to change the thinking around the NBA. By January we'll start getting more effort from other teams and probably more losses. After the break, I think our new coaching, system, and team dynamics will make a jump and we win more going down the stretch. So, we'll be just under 500 (12-15) for the first third, lose the second third (10-17), and win the last third (17-11) as we start to play better and pick off tanking teams, giving us a record of somewhere around 38-40 wins.
     
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  9. nolimitnp

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    Really depends on the growth of Sengun and Green. Will be interesting to see how much of the offense Udoka wants to run through Sengun.

    I could see 42-44 unless Green's efficiency doesn't improve.
     
  10. Kevooooo

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    82 baby!
     
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  11. apollo33

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    We won't win nearly as many games people think. We are a weird mix of mediocre veterans and largely unproven young players.

    You need someone on the team to truly breakout to star level. FVV is not a star, the Raptors missed the playoffs with him, Pascal, OG, Barnes and Poetle
     
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  12. Sengun

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    Over 34.5
     
  13. robbie380

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    37-40 seems fair but everything depends on the development of the young guys. If something magically clicks for KPJ with Ime then there is upside. He’s still the most potentially talented guy on the roster to me but we will find out if he has the mind and maturity to reach that potential.
     
  14. fryjol7

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    35 if we have no major injuries. Which has not happened for a few years. So Im expecting that to hit sometime before Jalen is projected to be a top10 scorer.
     
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      Guess the win total, Southwest Division. Let me know what you think the number pops at: Memphis: 50.5 Pelicans 46.5 Mavericks 47.5 Spurs 27.5 Rockets 29.5
     
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  16. cml750

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    I think SIlas and his "system" were so bad we could see them jump into the mid 30's so I voted 33-36.

    If they go through Sengun they may break .500. :eek:;)
     
  17. ChillyPete32

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    I think high 30s is possible but a lot of things have to break right. As of today you can’t say we are definitively better than a single team in the West, though I assume we’ll be better than at least San Antonio and Portland.

    Realistically if we won something like 31 games, are generally competitive, and at least one of the young players takes some steps towards realistically looking like a franchise player that will be a successful season.
     
  18. JW86

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    I think 30-35 is not the craziest to expect. But with a new coach, 3rd year jump for all other teams with lots of rookies in years past and our FA signings, we should be around 40.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    Last year we lost:
    5-10 games because of coaching
    5-10 games because of inexperience
    5-10 games because of tanking/not tryinf

    22+15 = 37 minimum
    22+30 = 52 maximum

    Rocket River
     
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  20. ArtV

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    I can’t see us that low but I really can’t see the pelicans that high either
     

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