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Politics vs. Economics: The Summer Gas Tax Break and the 3 Candidates

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bucket, Apr 30, 2008.

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  1. Refman

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    Whatever. Poke fun at a typo. The bottom line here is that you have been exposed as the petty criminal that you are. ;)
     
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  2. bucket

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    Ding, you win! Actually, economists think that the tax break would go mostly to oil companies, because of the inelasticity of supply. Essentially, oil companies will be able to raise their prices by close to the amount of the tax break, meaning that consumers will save very little.

    It's funny that in the 12 posts since the two articles I put up, none have used the words "Hillary" or "Clinton", and only one actually addressed the policy under discussion. At the same time, I do wonder what T_J's reaction would be if there was a story about Democrats stealing campaign signs. At any rate, I hope he'll now refrain from criticizing any political tactics that aren't any worse than theft.
     
    #62 bucket, May 4, 2008
  3. Refman

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    Good luck with that.

    Don't you understand that in T_J's little world, he can commit all the misdemeanor offenses he would like in the name of harassing those who disagree with him politically?
     
    #63 Refman, May 5, 2008
  4. Invisible Fan

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    Haha, Deckard. I like the 1 dollar tax on gas, or maybe a $4 minimum/gallon. If they tweak it so that the poor aren't adversely affected, it would force many into an efficient system.
     
    #64 Invisible Fan, May 5, 2008
  5. justtxyank

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    I heard a stat the if the gas tax is lifted for the summer, it would save the average American less than $30. Not that I'm sneezing at $30 if someone wants to give it to me, but that isn't enough money to me to warrant ANY potential negative impact on the economy.
     
    #65 justtxyank, May 5, 2008
  6. gifford1967

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    Will tater j whine his ass off when someone keys his whip, because of his McCain bumper sticker?

    The Magic 8 Ball says: It is decidedly so
     
    #66 gifford1967, May 5, 2008
  7. The_Yoyo

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    not to get too involved in TJ's debate but this gas break is absurd and I would have to agree with Obama on this issue that a summer gas tax break isnt going to make a difference in the average citizen's pocket
     
    #67 The_Yoyo, May 5, 2008
  8. Deckard

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    Thanks for responding. I mean that. My idea is, I contend, simply brilliant! Believe or not, it would work. Think about it. If you had a choice of going 55 or 60 mph, or going 80 or even 85 (I'm greedy!) if you had a hybrid or some other very fuel efficient vehicle, wouldn't millions of Americans rush to buy them? I certainly would. My van probably would qualify under a "top of it's class miles per gallon" for large vans, but I'd look to get something that qualified when I replace the sedan we own (it's going to my son this summer, so we need to replace it).



    Trim Bush.
     
    #68 Deckard, May 5, 2008
  9. bigtexxx

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    $30 likely doesn't mean much to Obama's latte liberal base.
     
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  10. Deckard

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    I prefer 2% with my latte.



    Trim Bush.
     
    #70 Deckard, May 5, 2008
  11. gifford1967

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    li'l t is officially on board with the moronic McCain/Clinton gas tax cut.
     
    #71 gifford1967, May 5, 2008
  12. bucket

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    You do realize that a much larger amount of the tax cut would go straight into oil industry profits, right? That for the same effect on the budget, the federal government could just write everyone a check for an amount larger than $30?

    Why don't you go find an economist who supports this proposal?
     
    #72 bucket, May 5, 2008
  13. Major

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    Except you'd amplify roadrage a lot from people who legally can go 80 having to navigate their way around people who can only legally go 55. :)
     
    #73 Major, May 5, 2008
  14. bigtexxx

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    OMG!!! OIL INDUSTRY PROFITS!! Did Obama teach you that those are BAD!!!!

    Think, people, think
     
    #74 bigtexxx, May 5, 2008
  15. Nice Rollin

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    A major cut goes to Saudi Arabia in the end. So, yes. It's bad.
     
    #75 Nice Rollin, May 5, 2008
  16. bucket

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    Oil industry profits are good, but government revenue is better. The McCain-Clinton gas tax holiday is largely a means of converting government revenue into oil industry profits.
     
    #76 bucket, May 5, 2008
  17. Major

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    http://www.gastaxscam.com/index.html

    :D


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    #77 Major, May 5, 2008
  18. Nice Rollin

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    shouldnt we encourage the use of less gas?

    i just dont understand this gas tax break.

    Nothing would be more damaging to the middle east than if we cut down on using so much gas. Forget your summer vacation to the damn beach....
     
    #78 Nice Rollin, May 5, 2008
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