[Politico] Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

this is a fair point.

 

15 pages of men deciding what women can and can't do.

 

Lol, gaslightboy. The only woman on this board that is active is constantly attacked by “you”.
What is your real point?

 

actually I think your response would have been better and more effective if you had patiently explained WHY Joe Biden's changing views on abortion are either (a) irrelevant today or (b) unimportant today, or (c) whatever point it is that you had in your head when you chose to say " No one gives a **** ".

That's just an assertion that is factually wrong. So not "wokism" at all. Simple correction of your disinformation.

 

Politicians opinions 40 years ago don't matter - people evolve their views or change them for various reasons. To hold anyone to a view from 40 years ago is ridiculous.

George Bush for instance was once pro-Choice yet that wasn't something that was a big deal when he was president - and that was a change over 10 years.

And obviously my comment wasn't meant to be taken literally but a generalization to say, why are you bringing this up as it has no relevance to the discussion at hand. Naturally it's my opinion too.

I'm just surprised it's a big deal to you.

 

they matter if the individual we're discussing is simply pandering to the left to get votes, and has been pandering for the past 20 years or so in three different presidential campaigns. I'd say that matters a great deal.

 

what is gay sex that is not straight sodomy?

not being obtuse, but perhaps there's a nuance here I'm missing.

please be specific (no homo).

 

Good luck find a politician that doesn't pander.

 

I thought your response to @basso was disrespectful. Unworthy of your ordinarily thoughtful way of participating in this forum. That was more of a monkey poo-flinging response than the kind of response I would expect from you.

 

[QUOTE="HTM, post: 14074723, member: 55841]

Women are also more likely to be religious then men.[/QUOTE]

"than", but we'll let that go. could you provide some statistics to support this contention?

also, one infers from your comment that opposition to abortion is chiefly (exclusively?) based in religion. is that what you're suggesting?

 

Quit assuming my gender I could be going by Andrea now and just wanna speak my mind about the issue!!!

 

I say "no one gives a ****" to my friends, my family, even clients and they laugh. There's no disrespect intended and I doubt @basso takes whatever I wrote as me insulting him or offending him.

 

Bill Bradley never pandered. I think Mitt Romney tends not to pander. I think there are politicians who stand on principle. hell, Bernie Sanders is an example of someone whom I suspect GENUINELY BELIEVES in the bull shitte he's selling . . . but I don't think he's pandering per se.

I think Biden lacks spine. He has been a political chameleon his entire career and it is amusing to me to see people react negatively when that apparent fact is pointed out to them

 

like I said, I'd rather read your reasons why Biden's checkered history on the abortion issue is irrelevant, if that's what you think. To simply say " No one gives a **** " is not very interesting to me as a contribution in this forum. That's like @DaDakota -quality discourse

 

I dont keep track of peoples gender. Thanks for clarifying

 

I'm not your family.

am I your friend?

 

for what it's worth, my wife has received TWO texts tonight directly from Joe Biden, who is attempting to fundraise on behalf of pro-choice candidates in light of this egregious decision by the Supreme Court.

and as noted earlier, "Joe Biden" has raised $7 million in the last 12 hours. Never let a good crisis go to waste

 

You don't think Bradley pandered? I mean who can read their mind but he shifted positions when he ran for the nomination as short lived as it was. Mitt Romney has certainly pandered on many instances, and so has Sanders. Biden has also stuck to his guns on more than a few things.

I just think different politicians have different core principles and yeah, are flexible on a lot of other things because you have to be to succeed in politics. I personally feel that Dems get held to a higher standard than Republicans too, but hey that's me.

Does Biden lack spine? I think he genuinely wants the help America, and will make compromises that he feels achieves that goal. Maybe that is lacking spine to some. But for me, what I want is someone who is pragmatic and listens to all sides and not too rigid. I think that works for the most part, but sure there are times you have to stand for something. I don't think Biden has been put to that kind of test yet. Is there a specific issue you are thinking of?

 

Are you insulted or offended by what I wrote? Seriously?

I'll tell you what, I'll buy you a beer the next time I get back to NYC (you still there?) but only if we agree not to discuss politics.

 

Pegging.