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Political Impact of the BLM Movement

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jul 13, 2016.

  1. Liberon

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    No. Because Asians are super marginalized and face unique problems that are very severe as a group. The fact that there are 74 million black people in America gives them that much more political power that they should take comfort in. It could be worst. East/South East Asians are not even 7 million I believe. So Black people take comfort in that.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

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    With this new information you have provided, I just learned that the black population in the US almost doubled! Thanks Dwight Howard and Antonio Cromartie!
     
  3. SkareKrow

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    So what about when a cop kills a black man when it was not needed leaving his child without a father? Maybe there would be less "unsocialized misfits" if the cops stop killing their fathers. Your quote basically said the cops have just created misfits in Baton Rouge and Saint Paul that they are now going to have to deal with aggressively. Great Job
     
  4. El_Conquistador

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    Police "killing" black men is a very infrequent occurrence and obviously not even in the top 10 list of causes for black children to be fatherless. Heck, in may of the "killings" the deceased was headed for prison anyway based on resisting arrest, fleeing an officer, outstanding warrants, recent crime, and a host of other reasons.

    The top reason for the lack of family structures in black communities is due to fathers abandoning their children's mothers. The fact that it is socially acceptable to refer to a woman as a "baby momma" is truly unbelievable and offensive. If you have a child with a woman, you should marry that woman. Not doing so leads to a breakdown in communities, and leaves children fatherless. It's a selfish move that sadly has become a staple of many inner city communities. Crime leading to incarceration is another leading reason for fatherless children. Violence within the community is a leading reason. Drug-related deaths is a leading reason. Unfortunately the media has created an environment where people, like the poster above, are misled to believe that policemen killing blacks is a widespread issue. It's actually not. Not even close. The main problem is lack of personal accountability in inner city communities.
     
  5. Kevooooo

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    While black communities have a much higher rate of single parent households, this isn't just a black thing. This is our country in general right now. Culturally, we are moving away from the family unit. It's all about independence now and what's best for ME right NOW. We have a selfish culture.

    Looking at the 2013 birth stats and "The birthrate among single mothers also varied along educational, socioeconomic and racial barriers. Sixty-eight percent of black women who had given birth in the past year were unmarried, compared to 11 percent of Asian women, 43 percent of hispanics and 26 percent of non-Hispanic white."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/01/single-motherhood-increases-census-report_n_3195455.html

    I think this is a incredibly alarming and worrying for the future of our nation. Not just pertaining to this discussion about black communities and black lives matter or even in terms of the likelihood of police interactions. Just in general, this should alarm many people about the state of our culture and the future of our nation.
     
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    This... The family unit has eroded. Cant really say much more.
     
  7. El_Conquistador

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    I agree fully. The problem is at its worst in the black community, however it's a national problem that cuts across all races.
     
  8. Dairy Ashford

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    It's a cultural paradigm shift, you're framing it as a problem to stigmatize blacks. It's only a problem for them economically because people like you will never give black women the same professional or economic opportunities as Caucasian females.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    Black community is probably the best organized on this subject. I can understand other minority groups wanting to be included, but any gains the black community can make in this area can be leveraged by other minority communities.

    The polls have shown a move only this week. These polls take a window of time to conduct. The recent Quinnipac poll, for example, was released on July 13, and represented surveys conducted June 30 to July 11. The Dallas shooting happened in the night from July 7 to July 8. So over half the survey period was pre-shooting. And, before we got to see the rhetorical aftershocks. I think you may be reading these polls too much in real-time. Check the dates.
     
  10. cml750

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    Unfortunately, BLM has lots of political power as long as our idiot in the White House continues to legitimize the hate they spew. What an idiot. He could have been a legendary unifier but instead decided to double down and legitimize stupid racist idiots. What a sad legacy.
     
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    3 years of BLM versus a century of the Klan and lynchings is a fair enough trade.
     
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    Here is an early news report; looks like it was Al Sharpton was the first "commentator" who used this term but apparently the family referred to Michael that way; it would not surprise if Obama had borrowed this common description somewhere along the way since everyone was freely using it:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/president-...missouri-teen-heartbreaking/story?id=24941866

    Sharpton emphasized the family's plea for non-violent protests.

    "To become violent in Michael Brown’s name is to betray the gentle giant he was," Sharpton said. "I know you're angry. I know this is outrageous. When I saw that photo, the outrage rose up in me. But we cannot be more outraged than his mom and dad, and if they can hold their heads with dignity, then we can too."
     
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    Nothing you said excuses the failure of a movement that refers to itself as "All Lives Matter" to speak up for groups of people who are losing their lives. It's in their name, they need to speak up for everybody. Not just show up when BLM is around.
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    While the BLM participants and even Obama would like to see this "movement" flourish and it evokes memories of other struggles, there is one key difference that really torpedoes any hopes BLM has of being successful. The difference between BLM and other struggles? BLM has not clearly articulated what specifically it wants to accomplish. The black civil rights movements wanted to end segregation and Jim Crow laws. The women's suffrage movement wanted to allow women to vote. The abolitionist movement wanted to end slavery. All had specific, targeted goals. Obama has compared BLM to these movements, which is absurd and offensive, and doing so disgraces these historic movements. BLM, if it has any chance of turning around public opinion -- which is quite low -- must articulate what it wants changed. Screaming for the "end of police brutality" and for "the killings to stop" does not work. They must provide what laws must change or what it is they seek to accomplish in terms of change -- and it must be specific. Without that, you have a movement that is rudderless and is just flailing in all directions without a common goal.

    Angry, disrespectful protests with taunting of police, throwing rocks, climbing on cars, blocking highways, is a surefire way to get public opinion turned against you. This is precisely why Obama's approval rating is dropping like a rock. He is now under 50% from Gallup -- a sympathetic pollster -- despite an adoring media and a black voting block who would support him even if he declared publicly for ISIS. BLM is largely responsible for this fall.


    GOOD DAY
     
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  15. El_Conquistador

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    Hard data to support why BLM is destroying Obama and Clinton's standing in the polls:

    From a July 13th Rasmussen Poll:
    % of blacks who view BLM as favorable: 59%
    % of non-black minorities who favorably view BLM: 49%
    % of whites who favorably view BLM: 31%

    So what that means is that 41% of blacks do not have a favorable view of BLM, 51% of non-black minorities, and 69% of whites do not have a favorable view.

    Applying some demographic population math to that, 62.5% of Americans view BLM unfavorably. That % signifies a hugely unpopular group and political toxicity.

    Hillary is caught between a rock and a hard place as to whether she should throw her support behind BLM. Without the black vote, she loses badly. Obviously without the white vote, she loses even worse.
     
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    So exactly when was the last Klan lynching??? We had moved on from things like that until our president(little p on purpose) doubled down on stupid for his divisive agenda.

    Note: the last BLM lynching of cops happened in Dallas. Why try to teach hate to push people to do these things?
     
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    He could have been a legendary unifier, but instead the racists decided to oppose everything he proposed, deny any opportunity to work across the aisle, and nitpick every piece of bullsh!t they could to try and disparage him.
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    You've got it wrong, it is the GOP that doubled down on stupid for a divisive agenda.

    Hate is taught every day in minority communities by (a small minority of) the police who project hate of some of the people in the communities they police.
     
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    Duane Brown's letter on BLM...

     

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