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Policeman's Taunts Caught on Tape

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by CharlieMurphy, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. ndnguy85

    ndnguy85 Contributing Member

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    ya..most of the time the guys are peeing in their pants anyway when they see the cops.
     
  2. WildSweet&Cool

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    Perfect!!!!!
     
  3. Rocket River

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    I see alot of folx saying the driver was a dick etc
    well
    you know what . . the cop is suppose to be above such things
    be a Professional

    Secondly - I think the guy admits he had the camera because his previous bad experiences

    Well . . .folx are saying. . if he wasn't a d*ck he would not get treated like this
    He was a d*ck because the way he was treated on previous police stops

    Which came 1st . . .
    those on the side of Law Enforcement will conclude he has always been a d*ck
    and
    Those on the other side will say repeated police bad conduct made him into a d*ck to cops

    Dunno which is the case
    but
    All sides need to act a little better

    Rocket River
     
  4. bladeage

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    why do you say dick, then d*ck? is that asterik representing something else.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    I don't get why people are saying the kid was a d*ck.

    He was acting as level headed and reasonable as anyone i've ever seen being treated like dirt by a cop.

    If a cop randomly comes up to me and wants me to lay down on the ground with my hands behind my back, you know what, f*** that s***.
     
  6. WildSweet&Cool

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    They were both dicks.

    That video was the beast with two dicks.
     
  7. cson

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    There's more, looks like Copland:


    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...34992940ABCFBFF886257355000D2A55?OpenDocument

    St. George — Video of a police sergeant taunting and threatening a motorist put the St. Louis area in the national spotlight, with the footage serving as a symbol of cops gone wild.

    But even lifelong St. Louisans might need a map and a magnifying glass to locate the hamlet that's giving law enforcement a black eye.

    It's St. George. It's one-fifth of a square mile of small brick homes and condominiums — amid a sea of small brick homes and condominiums — at Interstate 55 and Reavis Barracks Road in south St. Louis County.

    Like so many of the county's 91 municipalities, it's a subdivision with police power, and no shortage of it. For a tiny town and police force, St. George has had its share of police controversy. Advertisement

    It has drawn complaints for years that it is a speed trap. A police chief there 26 years ago was convicted of a mob hit.

    And this week, a video from Brett Darrow, 20, became an Internet hit. Darrow pulled into a commuter lot off Interstate 55 — outside St. George's city limits — around 2 a.m. Friday, when Sgt. James Kuehnlein approached and asked him what he was doing.

    When Darrow asked why, Kuehnlein launched into a series of taunts and threats.

    A check of court records shows Kuehnlein himself pleaded guilty of assault and stealing in two different cases, in 1988 and 1990. He successfully petitioned a judge in St. Louis County in 1998 to expunge his criminal record, which was making it hard for him to get work as a cop.

    The judge ordered those records sealed, as well as records of an acquittal for drunken driving and an assault arrest that did not result in charges.

    St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig earlier this week suspended Kuehnlein without pay while he investigates the case. On Wednesday, Kuehnlein hired attorney Travis L. Noble, a former police officer. He said he would review the unedited video today. RELATED LINKS
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    Uhrig said he has worked hard to cleanse the city of its image as a speed trap with a police department staffed by novices. But even he is not untouched by scandal.

    Five years ago, an administrative commission upheld an accusation that Uhrig propositioned a 17-year-old girl for sex during a traffic stop in 2000, when he was an Arnold officer.

    Chrystal Cole's civil rights lawsuit against Uhrig and the city went to mediation; the disposition was not made public.

    Cole told investigators that Uhrig had her drive to an empty parking lot where he spoke of jail, petted her arm and face, told her she was "beautiful, hot, and tempting," and suggested a "quickie."

    At the time, Uhrig denied ever seeing Cole that night, and said that she had fabricated the story out of malice over her previous contact with Arnold police.

    The commission upheld Cole's accusation.

    On Wednesday, Uhrig reacted angrily to questions about the case and repeatedly denied the accusation.

    In an e-mailed statement, he said, "This incident that I was accused of seven years ago does not (have) anything to do with the current situation."

    St. George has just under 1,300 people, but its police wrote about 3,000 tickets there in 2005.

    To Gary Hardesty, a St. George resident for 39 years, his city is "a speed trap." To little benefit of residents, he said, officers camp out on the main thoroughfare, Reavis Barracks Road, and pull over drivers.

    "If the officers had a good reputation and were qualified, they wouldn't work for this department," said Hardesty, 65.

    Some who have gotten tickets might have wondered why St. George even exists. They can thank moms in two subdivisions, back in 1948, who wanted their kids bused to school. Bayless schools would not send buses. So the subdivisions incorporated as St. George, which allowed them to join Affton schools.

    Police misconduct is an old story in St. George. In 1981, Chief Milton Russell Schepp worked with the so-called "Syrian underworld" to plant a bomb in a car driven by mobster Paul J. Leisure. Leisure survived the blast, and Schepp went to prison.

    St. George Mayor Harold Goodman said earlier this week that the case of Brett Darrow was "an isolated incident." He did not return a call seeking comment Wednesday.

    Paul Keene, a city alderman, said that although Kuehnlein shouldn't have lost his temper with Darrow, the city's police officers act appropriately.

    If people think police issue too many tickets, they should slow down, he said. "They go 10 to 15 miles over the speed limit there, and they need to be corrected."
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    I think he was using the asterick so that the word 'duck' would be censored out.

    Who could blame him?

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Hippieloser

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    I don't like police. I don't trust them. That said, I always comply with police orders.

    I have dealt with many cops over the years both as part of my job and simple run-ins. Cops and their attitudes vary, but full cooperation and use of "yes sir, no sir" ALWAYS makes it easier on you, no matter who you are or what you have/haven't done.

    I have only had a cop yell at me once. I was pulled over on 45 South on my way home from a concert or something and as the cop walked towards me I opened my glove box and rummaged around for my insurance (I know the drill!). The cop screamed at me, "Get out of that glove box! Show me your hands!" I did, and he told me to get out of the car. He searched me. I told him I was sorry for frightening him, and that I was just going for my insurance. He calmed down and told me that he was by himself and didn't know if I was going for a weapon, drugs, or what. I cooperated fully and got a ticket, but the cop didn't give me a ticket for my expired sticker and thanked me for being cordial.

    Cops get scared by themselves at night too, even with a gun on their hip. That said, threatening to make up evidence is completely wrong, this cop went over-the-line psycho and SHOULD lose his job.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    I meant to use the * throughout . . it was a mistake

    Rocket River
     
  11. WildSweet&Cool

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    Dude! He's the drummer for....... the Police!

    Coincidence? I think not!
     
  12. CriscoKidd

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    The kid acted like a dick at the very beginning. He acted level headed after the cop flew off the deep end.
     
  13. swilkins

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    People are funny.
     
  14. AntiSonic

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    it's easy to call the cop a dick and say that he should be above such outbursts (which i agree with), but i'm sure most of us don't have to deal with the stresses that job comes with and then have to deal with piss-ant spoiled 20 year olds trying to bust our balls on top of it.

    the cop was clearly out of line for threatening to make up charges, but let's not paint the kid as some innocent saint either.
     
  15. gucci888

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    Some cops are just dicks, some have reasons to be dicks.
     
  16. MexAmercnMoose

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    so what? it comes with the job
     
  17. rezdawg

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    Ive been pulled over 3 times in my life...all after midnight. Two of the times, I did absolutely nothing, the other time, the cop said I was going 37 in a 35 :rolleyes: (And he later accused me of stealing the car I was driving).

    All 3 incidences ended up with me being asked to step out, questioned, and threatened. And I did nothing to provoke any of it.

    I hate cops.
     
  18. Puedlfor

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    Except that he was innocent?

    Edit: Luckily, I'm sure this is the first time this police officer has even threatened to fabricate charges against someone and take them to jail because the driver was discourteous.
     
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  19. AntiSonic

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    He may not have committed a crime per se, but it's CLEAR that he set out to get an officer's 1) attention, and 2) ire.

    I don't buy that the cop is just messing with him for being in an empty lot. There must be some goings on in that area that the kid knew about that would get an officer to investigate him. He freaking went out with a camera already rolling.

    I'm no fan of bully cops either, but at the very least, this kid was wasting police resources with his little investigative report.
     
  20. ico4498

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    kudos for the kid's "little investigative report". positive outcome is good. :)
     

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