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Police Crash a Pool Party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Blatz, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    It's interesting that the "conservatives" here are all for the freedom for business owners to do whatever they see fit except when it comes to not associating with people who do racist stuff.
     
  2. SF3isBack!!

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    I'm sorry but that's not black face. I find it funny that all of a sudden you are concerned about what's racist, lol. Most black people have no problem with her. People who call this black face don't know the history of black face. There is a difference between wanting to be black and being racist. It's funny how people who aren't even black are just outraged by this but those same people saw no problem with a little black girl having her head thrown into a pavement and being sat on by a fully grown man for "Running her mouth".
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Except that's not what happened. Most of those kids lived in the neighborhood. The rest were invited. It was a mixed race crowd as well. The blacks kids were harassed as people mistakenly thought they shouldn't be there when they were living in the neighborhood and had a right to be there. Assuming they should be in section 8 housing because they are black is racist. That's just a fact.

    The woman slapped another girl in the face. Maybe the employer isn't firing her for being racist but for being violent. I certainly wouldn't want someone working with my customers who has assaulted a black teen over the weekend.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I know, it's like let business do whatever they want unless it comes to race, than they should be forced to always back the white person.
     
  5. wizkid83

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    I don't agree with bobby on most stuff, but just a quick question here. Based on what I learned of the story there were 2 security guards on site that were unable to keep the crowd of 70 from trespassing.

    What is the next step/proper escalation level? I think the best thing for to do, and the one that makes the most legal sense is to call the authorities (which transfers legal exposure of handling the situation as we saw).

    I think the legal authorities should be handling the the situation in a calm manner (which if you saw in the video, it appears other officers were doing). That is until one deviated from what his job was supposed to do (serve and protect) and completely over-reacted.

    But back to the question, what is your suggestion the proper escalation level for securities/residents to do besides calling the law enforcement AND be able to keep people from trespassing on their pool?
     
  6. wizkid83

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    I could be wrong but here's what I've read up on the situation. Each person invited are allowed to bring two guests (need to swipe badges to get in). However, the number of people wanting to get in was greater than the number of available slots. People were hopping the fence and the on-site security couldn't handle it. If the facts differ from these then I think the POV on the proper action needs to change (i.e. let's say of the people in the pool, most were either the resident or of people swiped in by the resident, then even if one or two is hopping the fences (kids will be kids), then yeah, the party should've gone on and cops should not have been called.

    The racist comments were bad by the residents and should not be made. The confrontation should not have gotten physical, agree on all those points.
     
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  7. Bandwagoner

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    You are assuming they are more trouble then they are worth when actually the people calling for her to be fired are SJW on twitter who will move on to the next thing in a week. They won't say a peep if she is fired and finds another job either.

    If her job had no relation to the actions her new job should annoy them just as much. Why would they boycott (yeah right) her current company and not her next one?
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Actually I am making fun of the people who irrationally want to see her fired and asking where it ends.
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    Why is it irrational for people to have an negative opinion about a person saying racist stuff and want to see them fired? People are free to do business or not do business with whoever they choose.

    I'm pretty sure she will find something else to do with her life. There are enough people out there applauding this woman and one of these people will probably hire her. It's just that a business with a public profile probably wouldn't want to be associated with her.

    The woman probably will help her public perception if she explains what happens and sincerely apologize for the use of racist language. Worked for Riley Cooper.
     
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    Only the last part is irrational. Unlike the cop or even principal, getting in a fight isn't related to her job. Why do they want to see her fired? It is just an arbitrary punishment they feel is possible.


    Not what this is about. They aren't firing people because they see a down urn in business after 2 days of people going through the "effort" of calling for her head on twitter.

    Why assume the only person willing to hire her applauds what she did? I don't like what she did, as I am a non-violent adult. By even the best accounts she lost control. One mistake, not related to your job, and people are calling for her to be fired as a punishment. If she needs punishment for assault, or verbal abuse in public, put pressure on the law and do it correctly.

    This is the golden age of SJW. They have found their niche power over companies who don't understand that neck beards on social media have little power and even less resolve. This vocal minority wanting her fired should basically be ignored when making a decision to employ her.
     
  11. SF3isBack!!

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    No actually it's necessary. I don't know your background but if you've ever taken a business or ethics class in college you would know that the two are closely associated when you are trying to maintain a good business. The goal of any business is to have as many paying customers as possible. In short you don't want to piss people off (If you are smart). So employing someone who is now a known racist, would be showing that you not only take racism seriously but actually support it by hiring a racist. As someone said earlier from a pure business standpoint she should be fired.
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    If she is fired we can see if you are correct by how much negative publicity ADHD Twitter gives her new employer.

    From a pure business standpoint you have to replace anyone you fire and competent people are hard to find. Unless she is selling her image like Paula Deen it is pointless to fire an otherwise valuable employee. I don't know her name or what she looks like and if I did I would forget it in a week.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Do you agree?
     
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    I don't think anyone is advocating taking away that freedom. Just disagreeing with the decision
     
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    Has it even been confirmed that the woman was saying "racist stuff" or is that just an assumption?
     
  16. SF3isBack!!

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    You would forget your coworker calling someone the N word after a week? And what if you worked at a job where she had the power to deny loans to minorities or deny jobs or there were people that worked for her that were black.
     
  17. SF3isBack!!

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    OH never I see what you said, you would forget her not what she said. I don't really remember what she looks like either. I know both ladies where fat.
     
  18. Carl Herrera

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    It's been reported several times that the women who were video-taped fighting with the black teens told the black folks to "go back to section 8 housing." Did I personally hear it? No. But if she did not say such a thing one would thing that she would have come out and vehemently and repeatedly deny it in public. That's what I would have done.


    The two white ladies involved in the fighting have been accused of racism, like everyone else, they have a chance to tell their stories. I'm sure media outlets are happy to interview them and put their stories in print, on the web and on TV/radio. Even in the court of public opinion, there is a chance to defend yourself.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, so since there was an allegation made by kids who were angry they didn't get their way, that means we need an inquisition to settle the matter?

    Honestly this isn't worth anyone's time.
     
  20. edwardc

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    bobby there was a 14 or 15 yr old girl that stated that there was some words that was stated by some people that was racist and this was stated by a young white girl.
    http://bossip.com/1151583/update-bl...-with-racial-slurs-before-calling-cops-video/
     

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