PM S. Harper heckled as he warns of ‘new strain’ of anti-Semitism in historic Israeli parliament spe

It's like all you guys (you and Izak) do in these threads is construct straw people with random arguments you source from---???. It's really absurd from an external perspective. Do you even have aggregate evidence this is happening on this forum?

Anyways, you're verging onto personal, and emotion-based talk, which is not fun at all. I do wish you the best in your personal life, let's not let forum shenanigans get in the middle of our lives.

 

Northside Intern's continued desperate attempts to act as if he was taking the high road are noted. Since it is evident that they are forced while he is foaming at the mouth in his mother's basement, nobody is impressed.

 

I love you too ATW

Btw, I'm not an anti-semite, I'm a raging neo-Nazi, just so you get that straight.

We have a talent for derailing threads, and I feel like this is heading that way again. Either start another one, or adios.

 

Nobody cares about what Northside Intern feels like.

Fact of the matter is that leftists have tried to derail the thread and Northside Intern has unsuccessfully tried to be funny in an anti-semitic way by implying that only an Israeli could have a positive view of Israel, while neither the leftists nor the intern were able to intellectually process the actual content of the Prime Minister's speech.

Nevertheless, the Prime Minister is 100 % right about everything he said, and so is IzakDavid13 on this thread.

 

You can go around posting without calling people anti-semites. The label has gotten all too common and has turned into a propaganda tool . I don't doubt that there are those out there that are anti-semites, but it certainly detracts from them when the term is used so loosely. My opinion? NS is not an anti-semite (one that hates jewish people).

 

Can you explain what's irrational in his speech?
having an opinion diffrent than yours about Israel = irrational?

 

It's irrational because he's coming into a conflict and aspiring a large reason of it to a "new anti-Semitism". He refuses to "single out" Israel which in reality means he refuses to condemn Israel at all. He was silent on settlements, and all of the substantive issues gearing the conflict, from high imprisonment rates of Palestinian children, to the irrational economic punishment of Gaza that punishes both Palestinians and Israelis---and he has always been silent on these issues (to be fair this applies to most Canadian leaders).

Basically, he took this whole speech, hoorahed on "values", and never took one critical look at what might be driving the conflict, because that might have discomforted some Israelis (even as members of Netanyahu's own coalition partners openly discuss these issues, and condemn them). He went into a raging conflict, and openly declared Canada's undying allegiance to a policy issue that requires flexibility. Instead, Canada is nothing more then a one-sided puppet on this issue that has lost all credibility---much as we have on issues such as climate change with Harper in charge.

^This. Really. Way to go about problem-solving Steve Harp, big ups for implying everybody who criticizes Israel may just secretly be an anti-semite. Only constructive results will follow.

Instead of fluff, I wish we had a Canadian leader who would be tough on the issues that affect both Palestine and Israel. Canada never massacred the Jews, and we've been there from the damn start. We're one of the closest friends Israel has got. It's time to use that leverage, instead of giving speeches that tie us fixedly to a position, and advances nothing.

The equivalent of this is to say that you might be anti-Arab, and a racist if you advance pro-security measures, and by the way I'm sticking to that position forever. Constructive.

 

oh yeah, also saying you refuse to criticize Syria because you don't want to "single out" Arab states.

 

Prime Minister Harper = intelligent, honest, trustworthy Canadian with a track record of achievement
Northside Intern = nothing. But likes to babble.

 

This is a dangerous scheme, attempting to label criticism against Israel as antisemitism. It shows an utter lack of nuance, lack of respect for public discourse, lack of respect for free speech, lack of respect for open public debate. And there's also a whiff of fascism in the air, because some nations will arrest you for anything that can be interpreted as hate speech. It's not just a political rant, it's also an attempt to create a foundation of political suppression, to intimidate and silence anyone who's critical of the incestuous relationship between Israel and the West, especially in regards to Palestinians.

What the Hell has happened to Canada?

 

Raven, would you agree with your own statement if "Israel" was exchanged for "Islam" plus the minor bolded changes above?

 

What a stain this Harper character is on the otherwise fantastic history of Canada. What a shame that Canadians have to endure this scammer, this GWB wannabe who doesn't even care that conservatives won't stay in power yet his policies have long term damage potential for the citizens and the social make up of the country. How anyone could come into office when Harper did and assume that a country doing so well needs radical change... just baffling.

A really sad and tragic part of Canada's history for Canadians. I'll celebrate with them when he's out. I'm confident they'll have learnt their lesson, and possibly some smaller lessons in how it feels to have a leader who's happy to be a stooge for the foreign policy of countries other than his own.

 

Mathloom hates Israel so much that he tries to smear the fantastic PM of Canada.

 

Textbook straw man.

 

Canda knows whats the truth.

watch this comparison between Israel and south Africa, and understand why Canada is right, in her support of Israel.

you need to ask why Israel's neighbors don't act the same.

‏http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9eOO4B7QFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Here is an interesting article detailing how Jewish writers and editors at the New Republic one of the most famous and oldest political magazines are abandoning support for Zionism and the "ethnocracy" that is Israel. It is a hopeful sign that the support for Zionism and Israeli oppression of the Palestinians is becoming relegated to the older Jewish generation and American conservatives. Jewish Americans are starting to return to their liberal principles.

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http://mondoweiss.net/2014/02/praising-abandoned-liberalism.html

 

There is not one single Islamic terrorist group in Palestine that would accept any kind of piece between Israel and Palestine. The Palestinian people are at the mercy of their own religious hate and acceptance of terrorism. Israel is not going anywhere and Islam can't stop trying to kill them.

It sure is fun discussing how to fix something that has been going on for thousands of years. The only way to fix it is for one or the other religious faction to die.

 

You may not know it, but what you've said here is entirely false.

 

You may not know it, but what you've said here is entirely false

 

Perhaps you'd like to do some research on what Mejdi is and what it stands for.

Also look up the Valley for Peace for initiative and the Palestinians that participate in it.

If you look that up, you'll have to admit that your claim that no Palestinian Islamic groups are in favor of coexistence with Israel and living peacefully was entirely false.

I've named the groups which prove your statement was a false one.

edit:: I see. I think I read too fast. My fault, and apologies. You were referring only to terrorist groups and not to Islamic groups in general. Yes that makes sense, and further more terrorists should not be able to influence the peace process. The peace process should proceed more aggressively in order to prevent the terrorists from getting what they want. Don't let terrorist attacks stop Israel from doing the right thing, dismantling settlements, stop discriminating against Palestinians etc. The terrorists would lose almost all of their power if that happened.