What did you mean by maybe I am just being dense and not seeing the relation to my reply and this post, this BBS is a private entity and the owners can ban or censor any speech they wish, that is entirely seperate from the topic at hand...or was this directed personally at me for something I said? I believe that the best test we have on how well we have freedom of speech is how well we protect speech we don't like or agree with making people swear oaths and arresting people who wear shirts that disagree with you I think crosses the line as for starting a new thread, isn't this thread already dealing with this issue what the 'line' should be?
Clutch and his admins occsioinally curtail "free speech" by banning someone. If that is so egregious, is it not inconsistent for you to continue to patronize this place and I certainly want to see your contribution records!
Why don't you just try answering the question. Is it hypocrisy for a free-speecher such as yourself to keep showing up here where free speech is occasionally squelched.
I have no expectation of free speech here since it is a private BBS The couple was arrested at a July 4th "Presidential Appearance" not a political rally or speech -no tickets were issued the police and secret service had ZERO right to arrest someone for just wearing an anti-bush t-shirt the city council of Charleston says you are wrong ""If Nicole and Jeff Rank did nothing other than peaceably exercise their right of free speech and expression as guaranteed by our Constitutions, they should not have been arrested or charged with a crime," the resolution states." http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/20/protest.apology.ap/ by continuing this argument, I take it you are in favor or limiting free speech to only speech you agree with then?
i don't think Clutch cares what you wear when you attend his site. Though he would probably prefer not to know...
I notice that that resolution is conditionally prefaced by a Big If. What was the story? What happened to the trespassing charges? Were they really arrested for wearing a t-shirt or was it just a comlicating factor of their trespassing? I'm surprised that you have no expectaton of free speech here.
Rethugs against "hope." Great. _______________ Kerry, Edwards Swap One-Liners with Hecklers Fri Aug 6, 4:11 AM ET SEDALIA, Mo. (Reuters) - From the platform of the same train car from which U.S. President Harry Truman gave Republicans "hell" in 1948, John Kerry (news - web sites) and John Edwards (news - web sites) caught fresh jeers. "Four more years," chanted dozens of backers of President Bush (news - web sites) as the Democratic ticket emerged from their train late on Thursday and waved to hundreds of supporters. "Flush the Johns," one man shouted. Fans of presidential nominee Kerry and running mate Edwards outnumbered taunters, yet the scene was reminiscent of a rowdy hockey crowd. As Bush backers again chanted, "Four more years," Kerry drew cheers by predicting the end of the Bush presidency on election day. "Let them chant because they have only three more months to chant," Kerry said. "Harry Truman came through here in 1948," Kerry said. "And when Harry was talking, people would say, 'Give 'em hell Harry,' and Harry would say, 'I just tell them the truth and they think it's hell."' Edwards maintained a smile but at one point asked: "I just want to say to those folks who don't want to hear from us: My children are on this train. Show them some good Missouri manners." As the train pulled away, Edwards gushed: "That was great. That was fun. When they were booing 'hope' and 'optimism,' I knew it was an interesting crowd." http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&u=/nm/20040806/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_rowdy_dc_5&printer=1
... Still, the openly skeptical laughter that greeted some of his answers to their questions was a stark contrast to the fawning crowds Bush usually faces on the campaign trail. A lone heckler was escorted out of the hall by security after interrupting the president's opening speech with shouts of "Shame on you, Mr. Bush!" and calling him a liar. ... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040806/pl_nm/campaign_bush_dc&ncid=2043
He also said this in the article. FLIP FLOPPER!!! But to be fair, Jr finally faced a skeptical crowd. Good for him
