McMark, the early days of fascism in Germany as the frightened population gradually gave up their freedoms to Hitler is a history that needs to urgently studied. I hope I get a chance to sign one of those stupid statments so I can go protest these guys.
Giddy I apologize. Didn’t mean to sound harsh or make you feel bad. The point I’m trying to make (and what this thread is trying to make) is that we live in America! A country that was founded on discourse, disagreement and discussion. Hell we even fought a civil war over differing opinions. This is what makes America the greatest country in the world. We are obligated to express our opinions. Now we have an administration that is doing all it can to avoid differing opinions. One that won’t allow their own citizens to question them. It is not the America I know and love. And I think deep down you feel the same way.
I was kidding about the dog thing. I do think you think of me that way sometime, but I don't take it seriously because I know myself better than someone who has never met me. When will this BBS get shut down? It is a ripe field of criticism and discouse much of which is aimed at Bush. I think too many mountains are being made out of molehills. BTW, an you dispute any of my assertions above?
God! I extend an olive branch and try to be civil and this is the response? As to you question... yes...
Guess I'm being sensitive today! Oh giddy! 1 entry found for assertions. as·ser·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-sûrshn) n. The act of asserting. Something declared or stated positively, often with no support or attempt at proof.
Assertion: Hakeem Olajuwon was The Man in the pivot. Valid? Invalid? Lie? Truth? Beyond being an assertion, what is it? Still would like for you to unsubstantiate the things I said. I know you can. There's enough potential in word play alone to turn some of those things around on me, but I know too that those "assertions" are grounded in a helluva lot of truth.
Third place is: you're fired. If you don't like it, leave. Still can't believe how Roma smooth talked his way into closing that weirdo in the restaurant.
I guess we just see things differently! And that's okay! Again, that's what makes America great. And I will try to be more respectful in the future. Cheney would be eaten alive if he were to venture into the D&D and that's the difference. He and Jr do everything within their power to avoid decent or people with differing opinions. Oh, and "Hakeem Olajuwon was The Man in the pivot" That's a fact jack!
Easy. He hit on 'em. Spotted his weakness, a repressed sexuality, and went in for the kill. Soft sell indeed. (By the way, the Alec Baldwin "What's your name?" "F=== you, that's my name" character wasn't even in the play version. Supposedly, Mamet wrote the part into the movie's screenplay specifically with Baldwin in mind.) === I know I'm becoming a broken record on this. It really frightens me that civil liberties have been, and more to the point can be, revoked so easily, almost always with war as the justification. We fought a Civil War over our opinions, yes. But we also suspended habeas corpus to do so. WW1 was supposed to end all wars; we jailed dissenters (including one Congressman) in order to best fight it. Japanese Americans were forced into internment centers in WW2. I was in the Barnes & Noble today, and saw that Michelle Malkin just came out with a book that argued that putting the Japanese Americans, US citizens mind you, into concentration camps was a good thing, that it's a good example of why we need to racially profile now against Arabs. I really do feel we're headed back into the troughs of the civil liberties curve. If I see that book hit the best seller lists, I think my fears will be confirmed. I walked by the Citigroup building today (to get to B&N) and that entire block was virtually a police state. Officers were standing ten feet apart from each other, all down the street. Barricades were up, exits were closed, all bags were checked by security guards upon entry. The public atrium was closed down. Undercover officers were walking around with barely-noticeable earpieces, keeping tabs. Scary stuff. I'm not trying to write that the police making a show of force against a possible terrorist threat is a bad thing, it just reminded me of the force that could and likely would be marshalled if another terrorist incident occurred. If something else hits the fan, I don't think loyalty pledges will be all we have to concern ourselves with. (Of course, already American citizens [the scum of the earth, probably, but still American citizens] have been held as "enemy combatants" and had their rights as American citizens summarily and arbitrarily revoked.) Whirlwind's coming, and we are certainly not a nation that learns from its past mistakes.
N.M. GOP to Continue Asking for Pledge By RICHARD BENKE, Associated Press Writer RIO RANCHO, N.M. - Republicans in New Mexico say they will keep asking some people who want to attend Bush-Cheney campaign events to sign an endorsement pledge before receiving tickets. "If we feel our event will get disrupted again, we will use the same method to make sure it's a positive event," Republican Party spokesman Yier Shi said Thursday, defining positive as "without interruption, without debate — just (without) disruption, period." Notice the spelling and wording of the pledge. Shi said the GOP campaign plans to correct errors and omissions in the pledge: "I ... herby (sic) endorse George W. Bush for reelection of the United States." Besides correcting the spelling of hereby, it will make clear what office Bush is running for, Shi said. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...40805/ap_on_el_pr/loyalty_oath_2&sid=96378798
They don't love America. They clearly believe that they're the President and Vice-President of those who support them, not of everyone.
The rimrocker family is going to see Kerry and Edwards in Las Vegas, NM on Saturday. We'll go do a short hike in the beautiful Santa Fe National Forest and wind up in Little Vegas in time for the 5 pm speeches. All we had to do was go by local Dem offices and ask for tickets. We didn't know the people working and they didn't know us. Still, they didn't require ID or some silly pledge. We just got the tickets. I'll report on the security and stuff when we get back.
Is it possible that this is because the opponents of Kerry/Edwards are offering no more disruption than clapping together a pair of rubber thongs? There's disruption and then there's Disruption.
And they're doing a lot more than "clapping together a pair of rubber thongs." More power to em! ----- Kerry campaign train gets whistles at stop SEDALIA, United States (AFP) - Democratic presidential contender John Kerry and running mate John Edwards ran into a group of Republicans whose whistles and shouts drowned out a cheering crowd of supporters when their "Believe in America" train made a brief stop here overnight. With signs proclaiming "Four more years" and "Flush the Johns", supporters of President George W. Bush in the November 2 elections were seen and heard above several hundred "Kerry-Edwards" followers at the station, as the Democratic hopefuls and their wives appeared at the rear of the train. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...&e=5&u=/afp/20040806/ts_alt_afp/us_vote_kerry
As I've stated before: there were people at those events who were also wearing T-shirts and they were NOT arrested. The problem was the T-shirt said "HATE BUSH" as I recall. That plus "trespassing." I have no problem with anyone who disrupts a political event being removed from that event regardless of their party affiliation. Rallies are times of support. Every side deserves that opportunity.
Yeah, Republicans are always so civil. Like when Victor Morales came to San Marcos in 1996 and he was greeted by the College Republicans (I know this because my roommate at the time was a member until this incident) to chants of "Go Home Dirty Spic". Nice, civil racists. Now t-shirt wearing...that's horrible.
I never said that all Republicans were civil. I stated that if they weren't, their disruptions should be likewise shut down. I'm not familiar with the event you talk about but you have just tried to taint all Republicans because of the acts of one or a few. Also, don't forget that that was a bunch of college kids-- who are very prone to doing stupid stuff. Again, you keep ignoring the HATE message on the T-shirt. That plus the fact that they apparently "trespassed" is the reason they were detained not that they were wearing T-shirts.
