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Please someone chant "FIRE RICK,FIRE RICK" at the next game.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by noize, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. noize

    noize Member

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    They were playing his system.
     
  2. Blake

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    he has not done a good job so far, but he deserves a full season before calling for his head
     
  3. bingsha10

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    I really don't think this is the coach's fault. He's responded to problems by changing things around pretty quickly. Problem is nothing seems to work. The defense, while not as good as last year, is still 5th or something,,pretty respectable. The offense has come alive at times and the rocket's aren't 100% dependent on Yao and T-mac to score every single time.

    The problem is we have a million guards who completely suck.
     
  4. el_locoteee

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    Really where is pushing the ball to get easy basket or moving the baskets and the players and get cuts for easy shoots?

    They running a little bit in the first half and then when back to JVG system.

    If you think they are running their sytem you probably don't know RA system to well.
     
  5. Cohen

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    What a shock.
     
  6. Blake

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    it's obvious that the players are not playing the RA system a lot of the time. however, isn't it the coach's job to make sure that they do and to make sure that they understand it?
     
  7. noize

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    Ok, I will take it back...they were TRYING to play his system but they were to incompetent run it efficiently. Most of our players are better at handling the ball all more often then running without it to get open shots. We have players better at getting into their rythem with the ball in their hands(t-mac). We don't have pure good shooters to run around and get open shots for the exception of Battier.
     
  8. t-mac4bigmac

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    I think a lot of it is the coach's fault. He has players trying to do stuff they shouldn't be doing or hasn't allowed players to play to their strength:
    -Steve's strength is driving to the basket, but only saw that maybe once in this in the game.
    -Plays aren't being run for Luis Scola, although he should be an offensive threat.
    -Luther hasn't been the prime-time shooter he should be, rather he's been asked to play point guard :confused: , which any Rocket fan knows just won't work.
    -Yao for awhile was being used in the high post.
    -A Shane Battier post-up is a rarity.
    -Mike James hasn't been the scorer that he should be.
     
  9. northeastfan

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    Ask *any* basketball coach what how you would play if you had a dominant big man. He would say to play an inside out game. Surround him with a couple of slashers and shooters and you've got yourself the recipe for a great team. SA has won 4 championships with that philosophy. The Heat and the Lakers proved that that was a successful formula too. The Rockets?? They move the big man out to high post where he gets the ball. I'm not exactly sure what is supposed to happen from there, but it obviously isn't working ....
     
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    Steve tried to drive several times in the 3rd quarter, regardless of whether there was a lane to drive or not. The result was getting the ball stolen, bad passes, charges, and missed lay ups. Maybe he is injured, maybe he is out of shape, but whatever the reason he looked absolutely horrible tonight.
    I agree that they need to look for Scola more. Too many times I have seen him posted up and open, and the rockets reverse the ball to the other side. At this point his scoring is his major plus over Chuck, but if we give him less than 5 shots a game then Hayes might as well be in there for the superior defense.

    I agree that Luther is not a point guard, but I think Rick has just been desperate, especially with Rafer injured. Steve showed promise coming off the bench, but his starts have been disasters, none worse than tonight. That might have been the worst game of Steve's career.

    Occasional high post looks are fine, but the Rockets would go 2 or 3 possesions in a row without even getting Yao a touch in a game where he is playing great.

    Shane tried to post up 3 or 4 times tonight in the first quarter, he just missed every attempt.

    Well that isn't because he hasn't gotten enough shots. James has taken 10 more shots than Rafer while playing 188 less minutes. To put that in perspective, Francis has only played 177 minutes total this year.
     
  11. hatemavs4life

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    If it were possible, I would give thread -3 stars.

    First of all, is Rick shooting the ball, no. Is Rick passing the ball, no. Is Rick turning the ball over every 5 steps, no.

    The players HAVE TO PLAY the system to get open to get better looks. Has anyone been watching the LACK of movement by the other players just simply content to watch Yao and T-Mac take shots double or triple teamed?

    We have too many OVERRATED and incomplete game players.

    Luther can shoot in streaks, can't ball handle-a turnover machine.

    Rafer can ball handle, can dish the rock but can't shoot for ****!

    MJ? I'm puzzled with him. Really thought he would at least be an asset for us offensively. :rolleyes:

    SF3 on again, off again. Where is his swagger? :rolleyes:

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    After the inspiring performance put on tonite vs Dallas, I would say start Brooks, hell he can't be as big a f**k up as the others so far! He would at least play with some freakin passion!

    In conclusion, that's THE problem with the Rockets, not T-Mac, not Yao and lastly, not RA! Motion in the offense, push the ball consistently, force the action, knock down open shots! Last night, shots WAY TOO HARD to come by!

    Bottom line, Dallas executed in the second half, the Rox continually shot themselves in the foot and then when not turning the ball over could not make an open shot, INEXCUSABLE!
     
  12. thatboyz

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    The whole point is that these guys aren't putting forth the effort to run Rick's system, and he's not the type that will force it on them. For this reason, he needs to go
     
  13. barryxzz

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    Then who else is available that is better than him?
     
  14. MadMax

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    Where were you last year when I was saying the same thing about JVG in the playoffs? This team this year might not make the playoffs.

    We were some good shooters on the perimeter away from being really dangerous. We've lost defensive intensity...and intensity everywhere else, for that matter. I absolutely, positively believe the coach has something to do with that.
     
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    I'm not trying to pick on you, DD...but after that entire offseason of going back and forth over this issue, in particular.....wow....even i didn't think it would get shot down this quickly.
     
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    DD has apparently staked his entire BBS reputation on the success of V-Span and supporting the axing of JVG (assuming he was the biggest problem this team had).

    He's a big fat 0-2... the next predictable claim will be "Its all T-mac's fault"... which it clearly isn't. I do agree he's disgruntled, and its affecting his play, but a lot of that could be due to having lost the one guy who kept this team's energy, chemistry, and determination in check.

    T-mac was largely ridiculed before JVG took him in... and now he's likely to start giving off the same perception again... simply because Adelman apparently has no big desire to invest his heart, life, and all his energy into making this team work its ass off.
     
  17. MadMax

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    I don't know that Adelman has it in him to be that. That's not a knock on him...it's just not his strength. And with this cast of players, I think you need that sort of coach. The intensity we played with last season is long gone. Our personnel doesn't mesh well with the "system." Moving the most dominant big man in the game to the high post is a mistake.

    We needed a perimeter shooter or two. That's what we needed. Have someone else knock down some shots every once in a while to open up space and keep 'em honest. Truly, I really think that's it. Would that have been good enough to win a title...eh...I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe this group, even with the addition of a couple of shooters, wouldn't be enough to get it done. But I think that's as good as it gets for them. I think it would have been an upgrade over last season...and obviously a huge upgrade over what we're seeing now.

    But man, that offense sure is exciting, huh?? Les, are you excited yet???
     
  18. ktvoss

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    Yeah Rick Adelman cause the rockets to go 6-22 from the free throw line against Detroit! Rick is the reason the rockets players are making passes directly to Dallas players. Rick is teh reason why guys are missing point blank shots. Lets Chant Fire Rick just like we chanted fire Van Gundy in 2005.
     
  19. OddsOn

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    Where was this optimizim when JVG was the coach and we were top in the league in defense? :D

    Its all on the players. There is no hustle, no energy, no fire.....
    The only guys I see playing with this are Yao, Shane and Scola. Everyone else looks like they are just going through the motions.
     
  20. Mehdi

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    We need a disciplinary, not a players coach...the curse of JVG has begun folks!
     

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