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Please, No Rick Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Alirules, May 14, 2007.

  1. c1utchfan925

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    im sure JVG would love to step down from a head coach position to an assistant..right...

    with everything thats going on i can't wait till the new season starts :)
     
  2. Blake

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    No Adelman.

    No JVG either

    Bad problem to have
     
  3. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    I think he would be an awesome fit. He wouldn't come with the baggage of most coaches out there and he would take care of us, protect us, and he'd always be there for us.
     
  4. doboyz

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    Thank you, just...thank you. :)

     
  5. xomox

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    yao facing up is exactly what this team could have used against utah. it opens up the middle for any of the smaller players to drive. yao is an excellent jump shooter. it mixes things up for the opponents defense. the jazz always knew what we were going to do and were therefore fully prepared. if we mix it up, it frees some things up for our offense.

    it would be stupid to use this way only or even half the time but i don't see how it can be argued against.
     
  6. ButtZilla

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    Adleman is a proven coach. Although haven't won any rings... but still, the least he could do is helping Tracy getting pass the 1st round... ;)
     
  7. rhino17

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    Adelman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..JVG
     
  8. sun12

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    Right on. A soft coach like Adelman plus a soft player like T-mac and an excellent post player but with a lot of weakness in Yao, just can not cut it to win the NBA final. This current Rox team needs mental toughness, and it can only be learnt from coaches. The right coach should be the one who can make T-mac mentally tough. Adelman is not the right one.
     
  9. sun12

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    Well, you probably don't know Yao's shooting mechanics or never paid much attention to it. There is a reason Yao can't do face up shooting regularly. His shooting is a bit slow, he always retracts before shooting the ball. This makes his face-up shooting very blockable.
     
  10. sun12

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    He will get blocked more often than you like to see. His shooting release is slow.
     
  11. sun12

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    Yes, JVG always overachieved while Adelman always underachieved.

    The same people here who want Adelman will want to kick him out after 3 years and rebuilt the team.
     
  12. DieHard Rocket

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    No coach is going to make T-mac mentally tough. It's just Mcgrady's nature, I think we're going to have to accept that. What we can do is bring in some other mentally tough players that are leaders to push him and the rest of the team. Mental toughness isn't something you really learn, it's just something that you have or you don't.

    I'd really like to see us find a way to get Sam Cassell in here as our backup PG. I know he's old and maybe becoming injury prone, but he's a leader and he's tough, and he can hopefully help ease the scoring load for about 20 minutes a night off the bench. Hell, I wouldn't mind him playing 4th quarters only.
     
  13. sun12

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    Your argument is interesting. However, have you EVER EVER thought Portland under Adelman could be the dynasty or the Sacremento Kings could win 2 championships under Adelman thus make Adelman a 4, 5-championship coach???

    The opportunity is there for Adelman to take, he didn't take it.
     
  14. doublehh03

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    dude, that coach took portland to TWO FINAL appearances, one against the almighty MJ.

    his kings team should have won at least one not for horry's lucky shot. and in all reality, he never had player as good as tmac. tmac will be his best overall player as of date and w/ his known playmaking ability, tmac will now be even more effective under this coach.

    i don't think yao will be like divac or miller at all in terms of passing, but he'll incorporate him in more movement to get yao better position. and force more players to cut when he has the ball so yao doesn't hold the ball too long--either shoot or pass in a matter of 3-4 seconds.
     
  15. doublehh03

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    then who the hell do u suggest? JVG was mentally tough => what happened?

    mentally tough is crap. was the spurs mentally tough for choking their ass yesterday? well, im sure phoenix had nothing to do with it.

    when u have a good team and win, we'll have confidence. tmac will have more confidence.

    stop w/ that mentally tough crap. now w/ detroit losing again, i'm sure theyre not "mentally tough".
     
  16. DaDakota

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    WORD !

    Clyde Drexler was better than Tmac...he played with far more heart.....

    And some at the high post.

    DD
     
  17. doublehh03

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    wow, just wow. drexler was at best his only superstar. that bulls team had MJ, the best player ever, and arguably the second best dynasty to the celtics. that piston/bad boys had some of the roughest players and arguably one of the best PGs in thomas. and i wont say the luck he had v. the lakers. lakers got VERY VERY lucky in a few series and they would admit that themselves. and plus it was the lakers, they got the calls. u would be damned to blame it on adelman.

    again, he's a player's coach. JVG is like bill parcells, a damn annoying prick when u keep listening to him for 3 years.

    sometimes change is good. just change in itself is good.
     
  18. doublehh03

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    clyde had more "passion" than tmac, i give that. but he's not better than tmac. tmac's overall game blows drexler away in terms of what he can give a team. drexler never had tmac's responsibilities even when he was w/ portland. porter basically handled the ball and created a lot while drelxer finished. and we all know dream was their main guy in houston.

    i just feel tmac needed to be in a position where he "finishes," rather than starts things and finishes things. it's too much work for him. MJ went from that to just finish w/ pippen. kobe w/ shaq only had to basically play in the 4th. same w/ wade. hopefully adelman will put tmac in positions on the court to finish, rather than pick and roll his ass all the time.
     
  19. sun12

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    I think T-mac can be tutored. He needs the one who has the authority to demand him. I agree JVG is not the perfect coach because he still does not have the pedigree to DEMAND T-mac. Riley, Brown, Popovich and P.Jackson have the championships, thus have the pedigree to demand T-mac and make him believe. Other coaches can't demand T-mac as T-mac is a superstar.

    Among those championship coaches, I think P. Jackson is the best fit because his Triangle offense would reduce the need for a perfect PG, thus saving Les and team money. The team can then emphasize on getting a PF only.

    However, PJ still has one-year left on his Lakers contract. Unless Rox wants to wait on PJ and hire an interim coach for one year, the second best option is to keep JVG but add better players.

    I know JVG is not popular among fans. However, if you look at the Utah-Rox series, the main reason Rox lost is because Yao has lost his quickness after the injury, and Okur then could defend him one-on-one. Utah apparently is a better team without Yao's quickness while Rox under JVG was able to grind out 3 wins. This just proves JVG is an excellent coach. His weakness is that he tends to think short-term instead of developing his benches. Still he has his reasons, Novak was lost on the court, Snyder got injuried and came back late and V-span is just too much TO prone.
     
  20. doublehh03

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    phil would demand $10 mil dude. that's too damn much for a coach. if u live in LA, nobody wants him to stay w/ how much he is paid and how much he has been injured himself.
     

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