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Please Don't start with the Knee jerk Ariza bashing...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pete Chilcutt, Dec 13, 2009.

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  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Is it Knee Jerk if the guy has 23 games under his belt, and is shooting a putrid percentage?

    Is it knee jerk if a guy plays 23 games and turns it over on the dribble more than a baby and his bottle?

    Look, I think signing him for the MLE was a good move, but let's not sugarcoat things, Ariza has struggled this year...BIG TIME !

    DD
     
    #81 DaDakota, Dec 13, 2009
  2. rhino17

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    He has been struggling a TON in terms of playing this year, but what he pulled today was inexcusable and absolutely pathetic.
     
    #82 rhino17, Dec 13, 2009
  3. srrm

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    It's knee jerk if we as fans have been told beforehand that the whole year is set aside for player development.
     
    #83 srrm, Dec 13, 2009
  4. Pete Chilcutt

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    It's knee jerk for people to call for his trade, based of his performance today

    It's knee jerk that everytime any player has a bad game people here go on the opposite badwagon

    Let him play and see what he is at the end of the season, number 1 is not his role, but without Yao and Tmac, Rick gave him his vote of confidence and stated that Ariza can be an all-star in this league.
     
    #84 Pete Chilcutt, Dec 13, 2009
  5. 523744

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    Exactly. Who here is actually delusional enough to think this team could compete for a championship? Whats the harm in letting a 6' 8" 24 y/o athletic wing get some game time development? Its just icing on the cake that the Rockets are fairly competitive this year.
     
    #85 523744, Dec 13, 2009
  6. Pete Chilcutt

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    Of course he has struggled, I know he has, but I am happy we have Ariza, a 25 year old young, athletic, forward who can drive and play defense. I would take him over a 30 year old Artest any day.

    This is not going to be an easy year without our two superstars, when Yao comes back Ariza's role will be set and he can perform better..
     
    #86 Pete Chilcutt, Dec 13, 2009
  7. rhino17

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    Is it kneejerk when he has had a combined total of 2 good games so far? Hell, Luther Head has done that.

    The guy has played TERRIBLE so far this season. That fact should at least be admitted. Maybe he can change in the future but there is absolutely no denying that he has been a piece of crap so far.
     
    #87 rhino17, Dec 13, 2009
  8. rhino17

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    Those remain to be seen
     
    #88 rhino17, Dec 13, 2009
  9. Pete Chilcutt

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    2 good games? The guy avg 17.7 and 5, 3,

    A little exaggerating....plus I admitted he is having a bad year, but people calling for his head and trade him is a bit unnecessary
     
    #89 Pete Chilcutt, Dec 13, 2009
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    17.7 shooting less than 40% from the field and playing horrid defense with a few exceptions is hardly "good."
     
    #90 rhino17, Dec 13, 2009
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    What do we gain with Ariza taking most of the shots? Seriously? I mean, he's supposed to be a 3rd option behind Yao and T-Mac anyways so what's giving him more shots gonna develop?

    He's a starter already so let him get "game time development" by playing heavy minutes and picking his spots. I think he should start getting used to the 3rd option right here and now and start giving up shots to other people.
     
    #91 hitman1900, Dec 13, 2009
  12. Pete Chilcutt

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    He was brought here to be part of the future, this year was never supposed to be a championship contending year, we were going to devolop the young guys and get ready for a return of Yao. These guys already have the chemistry, passion, and heart. Ariza is not the number one guy, but I am glad to have him over Artest and I'm sure you guys will see that soon enough
     
    #92 Pete Chilcutt, Dec 13, 2009
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    Im not going through the trouble of copying and pasting his good games because of how ridiculous this statement is. Compare a 6' 2" combo guard with no position to Ariza.. lol.. just look for yourself

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=2426
     
    #93 523744, Dec 13, 2009
  14. rhino17

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    What does shooting terribly, having no court awareness, and playing no defense do to help his future? He needs to play within his capabilities to know how to play when he returns to his normal role. That means taking open shots and playing defense. And his attitude today was pathetic to say the least
     
    #94 rhino17, Dec 13, 2009
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    I thought we did not like volume shooters in this board.
     
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  16. Pete Chilcutt

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    I agree, his attitude was stupid and immature, but you can't expect a guy who has been told to basically go out there and be the number one option after years of being a role player just flip the switch, he is obviously no T-mac or any other star, but if they reevalute the game plan and make him take less shots and get back to the things that he does best, he can turn in around...
     
    #96 Pete Chilcutt, Dec 13, 2009
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    IMO, that will only get him in a bad habit of taking bad shots and feeling like he does not need to play defense because he is "the man." If it is a tough transition for him to go from "role player" to "the man," imagine how hard it will be switching back. If he simply played within his capabilities, he would be a much improved player. If he stopped driving with defenders in front of him and chose his spots to drive wisely like he did against Cleveland, he would be much better. He needs to also get back to the defender he has been in the past, not be a pure gambler on the defensive end. He is getting steals, but he is also getting beat twice as often.
     
    #97 rhino17, Dec 13, 2009
  18. DaDakota

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    You mean developing players are not allowed to shoot well or learn how to dribble?

    ;)

    DD
     
    #98 DaDakota, Dec 13, 2009
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    i dont have a problem with TA but he does need to stop the lakers bs of swinging at and elbowing people for playing good D on him.
     
    #99 bullardfan, Dec 13, 2009
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    OP you are smart...you tricked everyone in TO bashing Ariza. If I could rep you I would. 5 Stars.

    On Topic I HATE ARIZA, but boy I wish he caught that guy with his elbow it woulda been hilarious.
     
    #100 YaosDirtyStache, Dec 13, 2009
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