1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Playoff Roster

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rocketpower2, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    Now that the official team is set let's go ahead and make some predictions as to what the playoff roster will look like. 25 man rosters and you really only need 4 starting pitchers. Here's mine.

    Position players
    C - Brian McCann | Evan Gattis
    1B - Yuli Gurriel
    2B - Jose Altuve
    SS - Carlos Correa
    3B - Alex Bregman
    LF - Marwin Gonzalez | Cameron Maybin
    CF - George Springer | Jake Marisnick
    RF - Josh Reddick
    DH - Carlos Beltran

    Starting Pitchers
    Dallas Keuchel
    Justin Verlander
    Lance McCullers
    Collin McHugh

    Bullpen
    Charlie Morton
    Brad Peacock
    Francisco Liriano
    Luke Gregerson
    Tyler Clippard
    Joe Musgrove
    Chris Devenski
    Will Harris
    Ken Giles

    I could definitely see an alternate scenario where one of Derek Fisher or JD Davis makes the roster over Liriano.
     
  2. SooneRockStro

    SooneRockStro Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 1999
    Messages:
    6,589
    Likes Received:
    4,142
    You're going to need an additional bat or two for the WS where we will have to have a deeper bench due to pitcher hitting.
     
  3. RocketFan007

    RocketFan007 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2001
    Messages:
    5,147
    Likes Received:
    196
    With regards to your alternate scenario, they're not going into the postseason without a lefty in the bullpen. Liriano will make the roster.
     
  4. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    I think so as well, although they have multiple pitchers there with great splits against LHHs (Clippard, Harris, Devenski).

    It's just insane to think of having to leave Morton or McHugh off the roster... the depth here is absolutely ridiculous.
     
  5. Shark44

    Shark44 71er
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 1999
    Messages:
    4,125
    Likes Received:
    7,461
    You don't see Fiers or Martes getting any consideration? I mean Fiers is our innings leader. Also, our catchers can't seem to stay healthy. How would you factor that in?
     
  6. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,404
    Likes Received:
    15,834
    Until McCullers shows something in his return, McHugh has to be the #3 pitcher - he's been outstanding thus far. If McCullers doesn't get back into form, then Morton or Peacock has to be the #4, I would think.

    There's absolutely no reason for Liriano to be on the roster unless he demonstrates he's any good. If they have no lefties, so be it.
     
    No Worries likes this.
  7. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,114
    Likes Received:
    15,018
    C (2): McCann, Gattis
    IF (6): Gurriel, Altuve, Correa, Bregman, Marwin, Davis*
    OF (5): Reddick, Springer, Maybin, Beltran, Marisnick

    SP (4): Keuchel, Verlander, McCullers, McHugh
    RP (8): Morton, Giles, Harris, Devenski, Peacock, Liriano**, Clippard**, Musgrove**

    *The 13th position player will almost certainly be someone who can play 3B/1B; it will come down to White, Moran, or Davis, and I think for now Davis is the favorite. However, I could see them also keeping a 3rd catcher instead, which would probably be Centeno.

    **Some tough choices here. Fiers, Martes, and Gregerson all make some degree of sense.
     
  8. Mr.Pringles

    Mr.Pringles Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    2,499
    Likes Received:
    1,777
    C McCann, Gattis
    IF Gurriel, Altuve, Bregman, Correa, Marwin
    OF Reddick, Springer, Marisnick, Maybin, Beltran (DH)

    Rotation
    Keuchel, McCullers, Verlander, McHugh

    Pen
    Giles, Harris, Devo, Peacock, Morton, Musgrove, Gregerson, Liriano, Clippard

    Martes is my toughest omission
     
  9. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,137
    Likes Received:
    27,892
    With 3 for sure starters, and 10 other arms, I'm of the opinion that nobody besides those 3 starters should ever see a hitter more than once in a game.

    McHugh, Peacock, Musgrove, Devo and Morton are all capable of going 2-3 innings, and they should do just that and no more. I would have McHugh start game 4, and unless he is absolutely dealing I would just go to the pen after the 3rd. Obviously that could change depending on how taxed our pen was through the first 3 games.
     
    Nook likes this.
  10. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,114
    Likes Received:
    15,018
    Pitcher usage:

    Game 1:
    Keuchel 1-6
    Devenski 7-8
    Giles 9

    Game 2:
    Verlander 1-6
    Peacock 7-8
    Harris 9

    Game 3:
    McCullers 1-5
    Devenski 6-7
    Harris 8
    Giles 9

    Game 4:
    McHugh 1-5
    Morton 6-9

    Game 5 same as Game 1, Game 6 same as Game 2.

    Game 7:
    McCullers 1-4
    Keuchel 5
    Devenski 6-7
    Harris 8
    Giles 9

    Extra pitchers: Musgrove, Clippard, Liriano. Good news is Liriano and and Musgrove can go multiple innings. I would not mind at all if Martes replaced Clippard, as that would mean all 3 extra arms can go multiple innings but also have the stuff to serve in specialty or late inning roles.
     
  11. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,396
    Likes Received:
    11,157
    Also keep in mind that they may change the roster with each series... so the construction may be different for a 5 game and 7 game series. Back in 2015, we essentially left all the starters except Keuchel off of the one game playoff and had all the extra bats.
     
    Nook likes this.
  12. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,159
    Likes Received:
    4,820
    With you all the way; there'll be 13 position players and I think the 13th will be a catcher to give them a little more flexibility. As for which one.... Stassi looks better (he'll draw a walk) - but it'll probably come down to lefty or right and what they think they'll need.

    Assuming Marwin's in LF, your bench is Gattis (R), Marisnick (R), Maybin (R) - that would favor Centeno.

    ETA: I HOPE they keep three catchers because I'd like for them to commit to hardline Beltran/Gattis platoon in postseason. Beltran has been dreadful v. LHP.

    (I'd actually be OK with Gattis replacing Beltran full-time but.... I also have very fond, sweet memories of 2004 and can't go there.)
     
    Nook likes this.
  13. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    17,300
    Likes Received:
    13,180
    While DK is a lock if he maintains his recent command, the 2-4 guys are all in play depending on how September unfolds. Morton or Peacock could easily displace one of those listed.
     
    Major likes this.
  14. MrBear1

    MrBear1 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    1,233
    Likes Received:
    467
    What about Rico Noel? No chance of making postseason roster? Does the Maybin signing make him obsolete?
     
  15. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2000
    Messages:
    10,058
    Likes Received:
    3,774
    Yes.

    Edit: Given we already have to make a 40 man move for Verlander, I can't see another one being made for Noel after the Maybin acquisition.
     
  16. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2000
    Messages:
    10,058
    Likes Received:
    3,774
    Interesting note - Moran did play in a rehab game at Quad Cities yesterday. 0-2 with a BB (and he was pinch run for).
     
  17. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,404
    Likes Received:
    15,834
    I'm not sure they need a 3rd catcher. If your catcher gets hurt, Gattis just moves out of DHing and you have the pitcher batting (or pinch hitters) for that game. I assume you can still replace an injured player during a postseason series, yes? The odds of needing a 3rd catcher just seems so remote - it would only been needed if both catchers got hurt in the same game.
     
  18. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,159
    Likes Received:
    4,820
    That's the exact reason why you need a 3rd catcher. You want a pitcher getting significant at-bats late in a postseason game? Don't want to burn PHers because of poor roster management. And at this point, there's no offensive difference between Centeno/Sassi/Davis/Fisher.
     
  19. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,404
    Likes Received:
    15,834
    That's what PHers are for. Our lineup, when healthy, is deep enough that you should never be pinch hitting for basically any of them:

    Springer, Correa, Altuve, Bregman, MarGo, McCann, Reddick, Gurriel, and Gattis should never really be pinch hit for. If Beltran is in the lineup, he's the only guy really potential PH-worthy, but that means Gattis is on the bench to come in and catch. So the only purpose of your bench guys are injury replacements and PH hits (with Marisnick being a late-inning defensive sub). Unless your catcher gets hurt early (SP wants to stay in game) OR the game goes into extra innings, you'd never have a pitcher batting - it seems like an extreme use of a roster spot that 99% chance will never play. Guys like Davis at least have the advantage of being able to play more positions in case of injury. I would take a Fisher type that has speed if you need to pinch run instead for a slow baserunner.
     
    kaleidosky likes this.
  20. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    85,500
    Likes Received:
    83,772
    This needs to be added to the OP...I was going to post the same thing.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now