Shinn's supposedly going bust and the Hornets are the only business venture that's making money for him. Gate takings would probably dry up for them if they dealt away Paul.
for discussion purposes, i think it's crucial to identify which teams have the largest collection of expiring contracts at their disposal, what their cap/tax situation is, and what young talent they have to package in a deal. i think such an assessment is imperative in evaluating our chances for respective targets. if chris paul will truly be on the market, i want to know who can offer the most. we are in a good position with mcgrady and cook expiring, and brooks, lowry, scola, and landry all cheap and most likely carrying inflated value after this playoff run.
Really? If they deal it will be a salary dump....something like CP3 and Chandler for Tmac and Brooks. That is a very good deal for team's looking to move salary. Tmac is a $23 million dollar expiring deal...and Brooks is a decent replacement with upside. DD
that's not much of a dump for them. if they are going to unload paul, i am certain they will ensure they are able to include posey and peja as well as chandler. otherwise, it's pointless. paul isn't the bad contract. he's the bait that enables them to unload ALL of their garbage.
ovbiously we need another big that can play, chandler sounds good. we also need a playmaker, and a scorer. gerald wallace comes to mind. as long as we get more insurance for Yao and another dynamic player for mac i'd be really happy. i don't think morey's just gonna let mac's contract expire, he could get a lot of pieces with that. and no i'm not talking about wade. but bosh is possible, that team isn't going anywhere with or without bosh, they don't have a dominant player.
Seriously. Landing Chris Paul would take a herculean effort -- probably Brooks, Landry, TMac, taking a few bad contracts and then throwing in multiple picks on top of that. And that still might not be enough. Any team looking to 2010 would jump in the race for Chris Paul -- and those teams by definition would have expiring contracts. If you wanted to played Dreamcast, TMac+Brooks+Landry+Cook for Paul+Peja+Posey+Armstrong looks like it would work. By my count, that would net reduce $80 million in future obligations off of the Hornets roster and dump it on to ours (though a decent chunk of that is Chris Paul -- but Peja+Posey are owed more than $30m past 09-10). That would leave us with: Yao/Armstrong Scola/Hayes/Dorsey Battier/Peja/White Posey/Barry Paul/Lowry With Von and Ron's status up in the air. That is a weird roster at the wings, but having the best 1 and 5 in the game can make you overlook a lot of things.
Actually while I think this most likely wont even be discussed but for fantasy GM purposes Paul, Chandler and Posey for TMAC, Brooks and Landry would work along with resigning Ron Ron it would give you a strong wing in Posey, Yao's ideal backup and Paul of course. So you would have the best point, center and wing defenders in the game, not bad huh???!!!
Amare 15, Nash 12, Barbosa 6= 33 million Tmac 23, Cook 3.5, Landry 3, Brooks 1= 30.5 million at 125% = 37 million Successful Trade Scenario Congratulations on a successful trade. Due to Houston and Phoenix being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Phoenix had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. I think that's how. -V
if you could get them to throw in chandler instead of either of peja or posey, we make out like bandits. though there is really no incentive for NO to do that when they would have a much easier time finding a taker for chandler on his own. i think you would have to do mcgrady/cook/brooks/scola and then also one of lowry or landry. it's a pipedream, but i can't think of any other teams that have the wealth of cheap young talent that we have in addition to $20+ million in expiring. if morey pulled off chris paul...
We'd have to vote the Hornet's GM 2 playoff shares. Can you imagine that squad with Artest in there also? That will never happen.
Chris Paul... are you kidding me? they aren't going to get rid of him or mac + picks. we're gonna have to trade yao and that aint happening.
Yeah, like I said it's most likely nothing more than dreaming, but you still have to make the offer. There's only 3 teams with cap space, but a total salary dump with no incoming talent guts the Hornets for years to come. As you pointed out, there are teams that can offer salary relief and there are teams that can offer young talent, but we're one of the few that can offer both.
Because Shaq's ego is too big to backup Yao, and we are not going to move one of them to the 4. That is why a trade for Shaq makes no sense at all and won't happen.
this is the second time you posted just to say that, we get it, you dont think it's gonna happen....great....now unless you have something relevant to the topic of the thread, let others continue talking. This thread has been pretty good so far, dont ruin it. kthx
If you were trying to get something close to fair value for Paul, then of course it's ridiculous. But they are trying to shed salary and Paul would be the cost for getting someone to take on their worst contracts. It's the same situation as when Memphis traded Gasol to the Lakers forAaron McKie, Jarvis Crittenton,Kwame Brown and draft picks. Memphis could have easily gotten more in return for Gasol,but they would have had to take back salary in return. There's a good interview with Morey on ESPN's website and today's chronicle had quotes from Morey too. In both he talks about how most team's main focus is reducing salary rather than adding talent. He also says that teams that are able to take on salary can add assets for very little. He also says that the Rockets are lucky due to their fanbase and great revenue stream from Toyota Center. Right now it's a buyer's market and we could be in the situation to capitalize on it. At a minimum, you have to at least make the offer.
