Now find one with them right next to each other and not one slightly in front. Watch introductions. Alp is taller. Not by much, but he’s taller. Damn sure isn’t shorter
Look at the hairline lol. Like I said, shave Sengun’s hair and it’ll be even more clear. Jabari is even taller with Sengun’s hair, so it would be even more without it.
You do know white hair and black hair is different right? What does hairline have to do with anything? Alp doesn’t have a two inch fro, unless there’s gel in it it’s not sticking up. Next game introductions you can see Alp is taller. If you can’t, oh well. You’re honestly too biased to see anything positive about Alp. You’re the exact opposite of the SOFs here, neither are good
Not saying that, but it gives him a little more height. I’m not being biased, I’m just telling the truth. You’re a SOF, I guess neither of us are good then. You make up bs to prop your hero up
Shoulder height for sure. That’s not height though. That’s the reason Alp looks shorter than he is and his standing reach isn’t good. He has a long neck and shoulders that sag. Jabari has a higher shoulders and a shorter neck
But Jabari isn’t even standing up straight and they’re still the same height with him doing so. We’ll agree to disagree on this, but I know for sure I’m right on this one
He isn’t a lob threat either on high screen and roll. He’a a short roll guy or he dribbles drive off the high post. Not a great dominant post player since he gets moved or runs into walls with a better defender on him or one of the better centers in the league. Doesn’t have a mid range so he doesn’t open up the offense. That’s why he plays so much High post or elbow to pass to cutters or give a handoff screen and allows the guards driving lanes. This has been the issue with Sengun.
I think Jabari is a bit taller than Alpi, but who cares. They are both Rockets, let's all support them both.
You don't know me well enough to make statements like that. In the context of sports takes, a hypocrite is one who praises a man for 3 assists but denounces another with 6 assists. I had no problem with username until he started declaring me biased. I mean if we're sticking to facts and not opinions...
Just for you and then I'm out of this thread because it's going to turn into exactly what's wrong with the discourse around Sengun. He is not infallible but fanboys with usernames like "AlperenSengun" defend him to silly lengths, like saying that username is not a bias and declaring things that are simply not true (like I don't hope Sengun becomes a generational star. How ****ing silly. I root for the name on the front not the back.) So we'll start with this. If Sengun played in the 4th and the 4th was a "shitshow" (your term), then Sengun contributed to a shitshow. 1 - regarding what, rebounds? 2 - sure they have. This thread isn't about them though, so that's not an excuse for Sengun. 3 - if guard play effects a team more then what good is "most consistent production" from a center? Again, this isn't about them. Anyone else can play like **** but it doesn't give Alperen Sengun a free pass to play like ****. You want to talk about me having a bias some more? Still not about Porter. Pretty sure at some point during the last 2 years he's had more than one bad game but it's genuinely not worth researching. Because every number he had went down for a month. Just interesting to me that the #1 guy SOF's go for is out and Sengun, a player you all have deemed a point guard, played like crap for a month after a short hot streak. You know what's curious here is that you again excuse Sengun with Silas (no bias, right?) but actually called a spade a spade by saying Sengun played poorly. You had to qualify it with the whole team bit but I'll give you the credit for it anyway. Guy you deflected relevant criticism of Sengun to Porter, Green and Silas and here the whole team in one post while claiming you have no bias. It isn't one game or one turnover (it was like 4 iirc). I didn't just dump on him. I pictured him with Hakeem and praised him for the things he does extremely well. I wish I could edit the OP to include some of the things I learned in the thread like how he's leading the team in a lot of advanced metrics. The things I'm opining about him needing to improve aren't exactly inaccurate or irrelevant though. What modern center is succeeding outside of the stereotypes of stretching the floor or rim running/protecting? He doesn't do either. I think it's fair to expect him to put up a competent 3 point shot before we call him a core player.
I agree with some of your criticisms and if you had read my posts in the past, you would find me writing similar things and addressing areas of development. Developing a shot for him is a must for him. I don't agree with the archetype/stereo type arguments because game is evolving and new archetypes are coming across. These are not static things. And I can imagine him being a successful piece of a winning team easily. We could have seen more evidence of that if we had a different coach. But these are not why I wrote my replies to your post. I am simply pointing out that you justified taking sengun out in the 4th quarters by one bad 4th quarter. I am not saying he did not. I am not giving him a free pass. I am trying to get you understand that this is a bias because you don't feel the same way for players with worse performances, either in that period or in the rest of the season. In that context I am not deflecting criticism. I talk about the other players because you could have argued for other players just the same way to sit them out. But you don't. Other notes: - I have not seen anybody claiming Sengun point guard except for Hakeem94. Posts with the same username on the top are made by the same poster and that is only one poster. And Sengun has been better at handling the ball than i expected, not to be compared to a point guard but to be compared to our expectations from a center like him. - Who do you say the most overall consistent player of rockets is from the starting 5 or the whole team? I think it is obviously Sengun. And I am almost certain this is the overwhelming opinion in the forum. - you said 'Pretty sure at some point during the last 2 years he's had more than one bad game but it's genuinely not worth researching' Unless this is sarcasm (that you can find more than one bad game of kpj by doing research), we have very different understanding of basketball and how we value players.
Think you're going down with the ship on this...Jabari's legs are longer (waistline), shoulders higher, and his hairline is even with the top of Alpi's head. Jabari is probably an inch taller (and still growing?). Looks like Alpi's about 2 inches taller than Tari, for whatever that's worth, lol Ultimately, who cares?
Yeah, who cares indeed. Instead we could have a debate on: - whose wiener is bigger - who pisses farther - who could beat Bruce Lee on XBox - who could make scrambled eggs faster while blindfolded - who could land a plane better if the pilot fainted etc
