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Planned Parenthood Director caught on tape selling aborted baby parts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. Northside Storm

    Northside Storm Contributing Member

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    A whole bunch of countries with the world's lowest abortion rates?
     
  2. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    OK, you have no proof but you know. That's faith. Your faith beliefs push you to take rights away from women, shame women, punish women and the icing on the cake... increase abortion rate.

    Faith is always irrational. Usually when combined with compassion for all, it's perfectly fine. But combined with illwill toward some, it's dangerous.
     
  3. giddyup

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    No. That's not what I said.

    Humanity had to be "attained" at some point from conception forward. Is that even arguable?

    Your side defines it where they want to so that they can do what they want. I say err on the side of caution since no one knows. Leave it alone.

    In this whole scenario who can possibly bear more brunt of ill will than the child?
     
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    As I said much earlier, I'm not concerned about whether or not they sell to just cover costs or to make a profit... so YES I understand the legal issues.

    BTW, how are the costs of storage and transfer ascertained? I'm sure there is never any funny business with the books! And I saw that PP executive's eyebrow-raising response when that guy offered her more than she was currently receiving.

    Another thing: are you so insecure that you have to lace your argument with put-downs and insults? I can see anyone slipping up once in a while when an exchange gets heated, but you seem to regularly do it unprovoked... like here.
     
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    "Any suffering that a woman suffers from carrying a pregnancy through to term is predicated on her not accepting responsibility for her actions. Where else in the world is that okay?"

    Not sure what your point is here. Not accepting responsibility is not accepting responsibility. Is 1 million instead of 5 million dead babies really a stopping place?
     
  6. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    You are using different words for the same thing. Baby, humanity. All come back to your faith and nothing more. You go extreme with that faith in how you consistently treat a no doubt real human with real humanity as a non human without humanity. What ground do you possibly stand on for evoking humanity when you so easily throw it into the trash.
     
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    How ironic when you do this with aborted babies.
     
  8. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Faith driven again. Where is your proof its a baby?
     
  9. Outlier

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    Oh let's see. Because it has a freaking heart beat when its taken out of the womb by abortion? Wait, lets label that something else because someone said so and it will be removed from our conscious.
     
  10. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    We've been through this. I can make an artificial heart that beat. It's not a life, baby, human, whatever you want to call it. It's simply a heart beat.
     
  11. Outlier

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    Let's take away your heart beat. Let's see what happens?
     
  12. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Let's add a heart beat to a toy doll and see what happen.
     
  13. Northside Storm

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    A baby is not a fetus, period. Legally, medically, scientifically. A fetus may become a baby but a baby is not a fetus. For there to be a baby there needs to be birth which is a very well-defined thing.

    Do you also run around and call caterpillars, butterflies? :confused:

    and what the hell does any of this have to do with a video that up to now, has only lied and deceived?
     
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    please elaborate on your plan to reduce abortions to 0, execution for any woman thinking about it?

    or deep deep religious shame, the same Latin American ethos that has triple the abortion rate of Western Europe on average?
     
  15. Northside Storm

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    They are agreed upon by the provider and a regular rate for expenses (ex: storage fee per square foot). If you want to look more into the U.S.C governing fetal tissue transfer, please have a look:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-2

    Wait, you can't handle being told you don't know much about science, medicine, and basic statistics, but you can compare scientists and doctors to Mengele, and pro-choice people as purveyors of death?

    Go tell that to a woman in need, that they lack fortitude and spine.

    jesus, are you even listening to yourself? I suppose your off-topic rhetoric, utter sense of shamelessness on the actual substance, and illogical policy positions are so blinding you don't even know what it feels like to be on the other side of that mess.

    If you don't like putdowns, don't putdown other people. Simple as that.
     
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    A fetus is both human and alive before an abortion. Abortion ends a human life.
     
  17. giddyup

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    Gee, I thought it was just plain old Logic. From the moment of conception and beyond, a human being has been created. Just when, you ask? Nobody knows for CERTAIN...

    ... but the Choosers pick a date on the timeline and proceed to kill children BY CHOICE up until that date. Sounds like they operate with more FAITH than the pro-Life crowd does as they are making monumental decisions on a wing and a prayer and absolutely ZERO CERTAINTY.
     
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    Only? What about all those words that come out of their mouths?
     
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    And what about their words? The worst you can charge them for is being facetious.
     
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  20. Outlier

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    Is this post serious?

    Btw,

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    Watch this in its entirety. Oh wait, you wouldnt do that because youre not open minded.
     

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