Plan to Close Guantánamo Now Delayed Until 2011 at the Earliest

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or sort of like how every republican president since and including reagan talks about how they are a fiscal conservative, but runs up the debt to unprecedented levels?

didnt cheney say "we will be greeted as liberators".

and regarding how long the war would last, rummy said "6 days, 6 weeks...i doubt 6 months".

here are some more quotes from people who were very, very wrong, all of them key members of the bush administration...
"We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, 3/27/03

"A year from now, I’d be surprised if there’s not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush." Former Pentagon Advisor Richard Perle, 9/22/03

these people and their supporters have absolutely ZERO credibility - they were totally wrong on virtually everything wrt iraq - and in his previous post, 'mojoman' is playing the same little semantics game that the bush administration did - "the mission accomplished banner wasnt talking about iraq, just the capture of saddam and the initial defeat of the iraqi military" - that is clearly not what they were implying at the time - its revisionist history and spin to claim otherwise. since when did the 'initial' defeat constitute 'mission accomplished'? 7 years later does 'mojoman' really believe that the mission was accomplished?

"Major combat operations have ENDED." George W. Bush, 5/1/03 - 7 years later does 'mojoman' really believe this?

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." — George W. Bush, Sept. 13, 2001
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"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." — George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." — George W. Bush, May 24, 2005

 

I will grant you they didn't use those exact words but they did pretty much say they would do away try to end abortion and 40 years later its still here.

[rquoter]
Ronald Reagan
We cannot survive as a free nation when some men decide that others are not fit to live and should be abandoned to abortion or infanticide. My Administration is dedicated to the preservation of America as a free land, and there is no cause more important for preserving that freedom than affirming the transcendent right to life of all human beings, the right without which no other rights have any meaning.[/rquoter]

Consider that he didn't even end late term abortions and even now those are still legal.

 

You're right I was mistaken Rumsfeld said that but Dick Cheney did offer this gem:

[rquoter]3) "I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." -- on the Iraq insurgency, June 20, 2005
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So was Cheney lying there? Under the standard you apply to Obama he was since clearly the insurgency was going strong at the time. Heck under the standard you apply to Obama if someone doesn't agree with your own speculation they are lying.

[rquoter]George W. Bush: We're going to get [Bin Laden] Dead or alive, it doesn't matter to me." 12/14/2001 [22] [/rquoter]

Is that clear enough for you?

So in other words it just spin since they never really committed to anything. Sort of like Obama never actually committed to the emission reductions you were going on about but that didn't stop you from calling him a liar well before the fact.

You know I agree with you that Obama has made a lot of mistakes but what bothers me though about your criticism of him is the blatant hypocrisy in defending the prior Admin to the convoluted lengths you go to tar Obama .

I would give credence to your criticism of Obama which frankly isn't completely off base if you showed such equanimity in regard to the other political figures.