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Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fbagulbagul, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. badgerfan

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    It's totally childish to view everything in terms of T-Mac/Yao and Yao/T-Mac. Yao doesn't enter into the equation. It doesn't matter what Yao does or doesn't do: T-Mac should stop taking heat checks from the parking garage. T-Mac should start going to the basket a little bit more. T-Mac should maybe forget about heaving up a three pointer if he's not making any, like in the playoff series against Utah. And he might want to work on his free throw shooting.

    Yao doesn't enter into it. He's completely irrelevant to those points.
     
  2. badgerfan

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    Dude, don't make excuses for him! Since when is 7/21 (33%) acceptable in a playoff game? And what does the lack of a PG have to do with the fact that T-Mac takes way too many suspect shots?
     
  3. lastmanstanding

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    This is the kind of trade that can be good for both teams. Can we put Rip in Tay's place and add a filler so we take on less salary?
     
  4. LCII

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    Dude, this trade would be awesome...
    Billups and T-Prince would fit on this team like a glove. Combined, they make up for the scoring and assists left in Tracy's void. We get our perfect PG too. Our 1-5 would suddenly become very solid:

    1: Billups
    2: Eh.. trade Battier and Head for Mike Miller or something
    3: T-Prince
    4: Scola
    5: Yao Ming

    I believe the reason Billups was so clutch in the 2004 playoffs was because Rasheed was actually beasting and playing in the post. He often drew double teams. Pistons are not as good now because Rasheed likes to chuck threes now. Billups + Yao would be so godly because Yao is going to draw all the doubles. Of course the help defender wouldn't be Billup's defender, but probably the SG or SF defender. But it'll still create open looks for Billups if we rotate the ball well.
     
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  5. Rockza

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    You know why Yao enters into the equation? Because he does the same thing you excuse TMac of, i.e. not taking it to the basket enough and taking fadeaway jumpers.
     
  6. Rockza

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    And I was merely pointing out the fallacy of comparing FG% of a center with that of a SG that you guys love doing because lets face it, thats the area along with rebounding where Yao is better than TMac.
     
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    Denver just turned down Detroit's offer for Melo......
    We will see what happens next.
     
  8. Rockza

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    You serious? Battier for Mike miller would not happen. Rip has to be in the equation.... the above lineup is not scary at all if you ask me.
    Rafer/Francis, Rip, Prince, Scola, Yao is slightly better...
     
  9. LCII

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    You think Rip >>>>> Billups? Must've only started watching the playoffs this year :rolleyes:
     
  10. Rockza

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    oh and I am sure you would want Shaq for Dwight... oh and wait thats why Detroit cant wait to trade Billups but refuse to include Rip even for Melo :rolleyes:
     
  11. Sooner423

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    Rip is good, but Billups is perfect for this team.
     
  12. badgerfan

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    In term of shooting % Yao is middle of the road for a center while T-Mac is pretty awful for a G/F so I would prefer that Yao take more shots. That's a whole different discussion though. Again, Yao has nothing to do with T-Mac's problems with shot selection and his reluctance to go to the basket. Or his problems at the FT line for that matter.
     
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    I have no interest to discuss this anymore. T-Mac is the #1 scorer in this team, he had a lot more FGAs than any other teammate for the last a few years. In another words, his FG% is the most important thing for the team's offense. If he couldn't have high FG% with a lot FGAs, everybody else has to do more extra works to get the team a win. At least, T-Mac should manage to improve his FG% to be close to the team's average.

    The end.
     
  14. Rockza

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    That might be the case, but without TMac we will need a SG. You guys criticize TMac's shooting? Wait till you get Billups. You guys do know that Billups career playoff FG% is 40%? and how is Billups so much better than Rip? Perfect example of how media distorts facts.

    Rip: http://www.nba.com/playerfile/richard_hamilton/career_stats.html
    Billups: http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chauncey_billups/career_stats.html

    See career playoff averages, heck any numbers.
     
  15. The Brian

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    i'd prefer rip+rasheed to any other combo.
     
  16. badgerfan

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    Billups wouldn't be in Houston primarily for scoring. He'd be in Houston to distribute the ball and play PG.
     
  17. Rockza

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    Yea so basically we will be trading TMac for another Rafer and a roleplayer in Tayshaun? Who will makeup for TMac's points? Yao? Trust me, wish you may, if we have players who cant shoot, it is very easy to take Yao out as we have seen Golden state and few other teams do it many times.
     
  18. badgerfan

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    Billups isn't another Rafer. He's a clear step up. And when the Rockets actually exploit the double on Yao they're a force to be reckoned with--the last time Yao played GS Scola went crazy in the first quarter because the Warriors were leaving him open to double Yao. And do I really need to point out that the Rockets went on to win that game behind a 36/19 night from Yao?
     
  19. Rockza

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    That's one game and I am talking about fronting. We need shooters who can exploit that and Billups is not the answer. We need Rip, he will tear up teams that leaves him open. To me, he is the best mid range shooter in the league. Whenever he gets doubled, Yao can feed Rip and Scola all day .
     
  20. badgerfan

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    It doesn't matter who's playing when Yao's doubled. An open man is an open man. If the other team wants to double Yao that should be a net disadvantage for them. If the Rockets exploit the double on a consistent basis they'll be okay.

    The PG and the C are the two most important spots on the team. Right now the Rockets have got Alston who is out and out mediocre. Billups is a legitimate All Star.
     

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