Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

Stats don't preach the entire story, general B-Ball and NBA knowledge will tell you brandon roy, ray allen or Ginobili are not better than T-MAC, speaking purely on talent and effectiveness (passing/ iq/ midrange ...w.e)

 

Yao is in the middle of the pack?? please please please back that up, I seriously want to hear your reasoning behind that. I can think of maybe 3 guys to put ahead of him but ur talkin about 13-15. Please explain.

 

Wecko...do you know how much i laughed at that statement. You had me on the floor no joke. I can HONESTLY tell you that you never picked up a basketball or went to the Y or whatever. Coming from a guy that practiced for 4 hrs every day of the year since middle school you don't even know the fundamentals.

 

ignore him. yao is the best offensive center in today's game (though if you consider amare a center, he's more explosive and harder to double).

yao's problems stem from his inability at times to handle double teams and be rendered ineffective due to those double teams. his passing and rebounding can also be improved (if he wants to be more of playmaker in adelman's system).

 

I think he means Yao can't dominate other centers and that he's always injured. I think Yao is the 2nd BEST center in the league when healthy only behind Dwight howard.....you know why?

Wecko is going to love this.

Because D. Howard Has 20/20 games and made it to the 2nd round and Yao hasn't.

Its amazing how a guy can be so cocky, he actually said he was too "Intelligent" for us when he can't even preach the fundamentals.

 

When it comes to FG% yes Yao is in the middle of the pack among centers. And FG% is what people like Wekko, Badgerfans, you etc. uses to explain how Yao is better than TMac and that Yao should be taking every shot, including his fadeaway jumper while if TMac wants to shoot, he should only attack the rim.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/b...1&qualified=0&conference=NBA&year=season_2007

 

Dont put words in my mouth. The percentages that I think are important are 3 pt and ft.

And yes, I would prefer if Tmac attacked the rim instead of settling for the jumper. How many star wingmen out there attack the rim less than Tmac?

 

Clutch should just create a TMac thread where all the haters like Antisonic, Wekko, Badgerfan etc. can attack TMac all they want and all TMac supporters like me can defend their hearts out. And anyone who tries to turn every single thread into a "legitimate" rant on TMac should be warned. This will allow all non T OFs, non Y OFs, and real Rockets fans to just talk about topics they are interested in without it degenerating into an attack TMac thread.

 

You're going to gauge a player based on how far he's gone in the playoffs? Yes, D.Howard has put up some monster games, but his skillset is nowhere near Yao's. He's just an athletic freak. He'll really be a force once he develops a good medium range jump shot (like Amare) and some post moves.

And yes, what I said was cocky. It was also true.

 

Sigh, I have read it many times from you. Forget it. FT% is now important? wow.. how convenient... but don't tell that to Shaq and his 4 rings...

 

Try as you may, I am sure there are many other nba players with better basketball "skillset" than Shaq, but guess who dominated the league for years? Yes mainly because he is an athletic freak and I hated him for that. Dwight is already putting up crazy numbers WITHOUT the skillset you are talking about, think about what will happen if he develops some moves?
Anyways, tells us how much you know....

 

if you were cocky, of course you believe it to be true. no cocky person would admit they're wrong, or else they wouldn't cocky would they?

 

D. Howard is the best center imho. You may feel differently, and he attacks the basket a lot more, not shooting fade aways all day, just your logic coming back to bite you in the ass

 

i said it before also, we hijacked this thread and we should give it back. Don't argue with him anymore even though you know he's wrong.


Everyone needs to get back on track.


Prince and Battier would be kind of redundant.

If that happens i think we'll have to trade battier away, who would you guys keep prince or battier?

 

You serious?? Prince! I would only trade TMac for Prince and Rip. Billups is not consistent enough, gets injured and getting up there in age, while Sheed is too volatile, getting old as well and probably at a decline.

 

Actually i would never even do this trade.

But i would do Billups/Rip

 

He also vanished in the fourth quarters of a couple of games. And in the first two games in Houston he went 7 of 21 and 9 of 22. Maybe if he had converted at a higher rate the Rockets might not have been down 0-2 going to Utah. For the entire series he was 6 of 24 (25%) from behind the three point line, including any number of games where he had 0 3 pt shots made.

Don't pretend that T-Mac kicked ass for the entire series. He had a great game 6 but balancing that are subpar performances in games 1 and 2. He had some good games but he definitely had some stinkers in there too.

 

Because Pierce is not McGrady. Obviously different people respond to pressure differently. That's what separates losers from winners. You can't point to person A and say because he did this that person B will automatically respond in the same way.

All you have left are coulda's, woulda's, shoulda's. There's no way of knowing how T-Mac would have performed if he'd played more games in the post season. Maybe he would have gotten better as time went on. But you hypothesize just as validly that maybe his injuries and fatigue would have started to catch up to him.

And regardless, the more games you play the better the chance that you're going to have a dog in there. That's the real issue with Pierce. He played more games than T-Mac.

 

If you seriously think that the Rockets had the arsenal to beat Utah without Yao you're delusional. If you actually read the sports pages you would probably have noticed that just about every single professional writer in the entire country chose Utah to win that series in six. Surprise, surprise: that's actually what happened.

 

Badger we had no starting PG the games he did bad!!! I would expect you to have that much common sense dude...