Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

no, you're making excuses. the dude did average 11 rebounds for the series my friend. he's not incapable of getting rebounds. sometimes a little boxing out and more hustle will get those rebounds.

dikembe is slower and older than yao and did he allow boozer or okur to dominate the boards. well you get the idea.

and for the last time, JVG has said publicly many times the reason we lost was b/c of defense AND rebounding. not offense. we scored 99 pts on 46% shooting. offense wasn't the issue. but oh yea, tmac should have driven more and scored more , while for YOU, it's fine to excuse yao for those rebounds b/c you don't "expect him to get those."

 

I kind of like this idea. But you should know Ricky Davis is crap. Just having sheed and billups won't do us much good.

Billups/ Hamilton or no deal at all is the way i see it.

 

well now that i think of it, now yao can play 25-28 mins that we want. but i still want a SG. and ricky davis is not gonna cut it at this stage of his career.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NEAvvARppc

First rebound at 19 seconds: Yao is jumping backwards trying to get a rebound against Boozer who is jumping straight up. I dont expect him to get it b/c he isnt a high jumper to begin with (not to mention he's backtracking). And his vertical will decrease b/c he's jumping backwards.

2nd rebound at 2:03 - The rebound doesn't come anywhere near him

3rd rebound at 2:26 - Its a foot race between Yao and Boozer to the sideline. I dont expect him to get it.

Explain to me how he should have gotten any of these 3 rebounds.

 

If the other four starters are Billups, Yao, Battier, Scola, then Ricky Davis will do just fine as the starting sg.

I'm not sure about the reserves though. If we pick up Billups, then Bobby Jackson will have to go. And Luther Head should be traded no matter what.

 

Actually, Dikembe is much faster, uses his elbows, has more agility, and can jump higher. And you think Yao should be a better rebounder?

I think Yao's wingspan is 7'5". Anyone know Deke's?

 

dude! if only you would make these stupid excuses for TMac..

One has to fight for rebounds, it doesn't just land on you! Now go watch the last 3 minutes of the game, there were three rebounds that were close to Yao, he was outhustled and there was one (a video was posted about it) where Boozer OUTJUMPED Yao to get that last crucial offensive rebound. Heck, there is no way that Yao a 7 6 center get 6 rebounds in one of the most crucial game of his life. These are rebounds we are talking about, not scoring points, not offensive points, defensive frigging rebounds!!

 

Yea, he'll do whatever to say crap about tmac, and make the dumbest excuses to defend Yao..."Errrr...Yao can't get rebounds so leave him alone!"

 

that is what haters used to do. it is sad. you gotta stay impartial, you can't hate like that.

 

You are watching this from under 2 minutes. Yao had 6 friggin rebounds the whole game. Okur had 11 and Boozer had 14. End of story

 

how can you say such a thing

it is unbelivable, Yao is 7-6, ye is on the court to score points but also to get rebounds. it should be our adventage, so i ask you how can you say "I don't expect center to get rebounds"

It is ridiculous

 

Can you tell me one incorrect thing I've ever said about Tmac? When I criticize Tmac, can you tell me one illogical thing I say?

Can you tell me one incorrect thing I've ever said about Yao? When I defend Yao, can you tell me one illogical thing I say?

 

We don't have to tell you, just read your previous posts and stop smoking...

 

Do you realize that because Yao is 7'6, he's far slower and have a lower vertical jump than just about everyone else?

Its ridiculous to expect him to get rebounds that arent near him just b/c he's 7'6.

 

In other words, no...I've said nothing incorrect.

 

first rebound - look where yao is, his body was NOWHERE NEAR BOOZER to box him out. are you serious with that? yes it was after a pick and roll, but yao had time to recover and find boozer. instead he didn't and boozer got perfect position to outtip him (at 0:22). are you serious about making that excuse. -> led to an okur 3.

2nd rebound, wasn't his fault at around 2:09 b/c that was OUTSIDE the paint. i don't blame him for that.

3rd one -> look at how yao left boozer UNSCATHED with no body on him and boozer was able to run to the rebound at the 3pt line. yes that rebound was at the 3pt line, but had yao put SOME KIND of body on him, a perimeter player may have gotten there. PUT A BODY ON HIM. that's how you stop him from making it a foot race. PUT A BODY.

sense the theme. PUT A BODY. yao's bigger, stronger. PUT A BODY. 2 of those rebounds, yao didn't put a body on boozer. you compensate for your lack of quickness/athleticism by pinning them by PUTTING A BODY.

 

yeah, i understand you are gonna defend Yao. But look, he has a big high adventage, sometimes he even doesn't have to jump. he is that big.

And that rebound in game 7 should have easily ben Yao's board. he was near the play

 

That's not saying much in Yao's defense. Yao should absolutely be more agile than a 40-something center with a ton of miles on his body. Deke uses his body more, plays a bit rough with his elbows for spacing. Why can't Yao also do this to clear more room for him to work for a rebound?

 

He just did. You can't just say the ball is not coming to him when he had 6 rebounds in game 7, while Boozer had 14 and Okur had 11 or that Yao is not a good rebounder as excuses for that performance. Would you accept the reasoning if we say, well TMac is just not a good defender so get off his back?

As for your criticism ofTMac, where do you want to start???

 

if you saw that rebound on the last one, alston was racing there also. had yao put a body on boozer, rafer would have gotten it. once again, yao never touched boozer on that last play and instead watched okur shoot it and forgot the basic fundamental -> BOXING OUT.

stop making excuses. JVG blamed our defense and rebounding for the loss. he's the coach. he was there. he saw them miss rebounds.