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Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fbagulbagul, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. R0ckets03

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    How old are you? This is not fantasy basketball.
     
  2. Rockza

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    Yea blame it on the coach and forget the specific examples I gave. I am tired of how everyone first keep blaming TMac for the playoff losses and for his defense even AFTER he had a great game. But in Yao's case, it is "anyone can have a bad game".

    We all know and it is a fact that TMac carries the team in the regular season, its not even debatable. In playoffs, I pointed out very specific examples of why we lost two close series instead of just saying Yao is lazy or TMac is not Kobe blah blah. Deal with it.
     
  3. bugzpodder

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    Its a fact that Van Gundy casted out the greece guy AND bonzi wells.
    Its a fact that besides Yao, Mcgrady, Battier and Alston (which sucked more then than now) we had no one else. comon? Luther head? Juwan Howard?

    Yeah, just blame it on the rockets. basketball is not a 4 player sport.

    Check out the box score. Rafer: 6pts, yao: 24, mcgrady 22, battier 11. Everyone else 0. How this team got to game 7 is obviously completely because of yao and mcgrady. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=270426026
     
  4. bugzpodder

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    Your logic is completely flawed. With no supporting casts, if teams like that made it out of the first round, it was because of a fluke. utah obivously have the better team then (its debatable this time even with all our injuries). Mavs obviously beat out the rockets then. We had no guys. the chances of them winning the championship is zero. it would take ten miracles for that to happen. And you blame this on Yao and TMac? They miss a free throw or a shot and you accuse them of losing the game? They are not the only two person on the court. Get that in your head.
     
  5. Sooner423

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    Bonzi cast himself out by coming into camp 60 pounds over weight and V-Span cast himself out by being a pompous jackass.
     
  6. bugzpodder

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    the point is we had no guys. if a game is won, its because all the supporting guys stepped up and tmac and yao did their job. if we lost its most likely because we got owned by Utah's bench (harpling, Millsap, Giricek) and someone like rafer is shooting 30%. Yao and Mcgrady always combine for ~50 points in every game in that series on at least 40% shooting. I don't know what more you can ask of them. Instead of saying, yao missed that FT (which he already created the effort to goto the line), why don't you ask Luther head why he is shooting 0-5? Instead of asking why Yao didn't get Boozer's offense rebound, why don't you ask the other four players on the floor as well? Oh wait, we don't have any other guys.
     
  7. wekko368

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    I originally said that if a player plays poorly for a few games, steps it up in game 7, and his team wins the series, then most of the criticism should be alleviated? How is that in ANY way a double standard? Winning will forgive all of your previous mistakes in the series.

    Welcome to clutch city.
     
  8. sook

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    Roflesuarus is partly right.

    If we can get Billups/Hamilton do it ! What ever it takes just do that trade.

    I'm tired of believing in the tmac/yao era, i know Yao is the one to blame but tmac is the one that has to go.

    End it, it failed.
     
  9. sook

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    28 ppg on 48% shooting game 7 last year for tmac.


    Yao losing crucial rebounds = our loss
     
  10. wekko368

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    With that backwards logic, people should be blaming Tmac for not scoring 200 pts by himself.

    As I've already addressed, you expect Yao to something he's physically not capable of.

    And btw, both Yao and Tmac had 29 pts that game.

    Hopefully, we can get 2 of the pistons players so the rockets can play like an actual team.
     
  11. sTeKcOr22

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    T-Mac is not getting traded. And we can win a championship with both WHEN HEALTHLY.
     
  12. sook

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    A center not capable of getting rebounds over a guy 1 ft shorter? I'm only asking whats reasonable. Not asking for 20 rb, maybe just 7 or in a crucial point of the game
     
  13. t_mac1

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    tmac for billups and hamilton, nothing else. if you trade tmac, you need a SG in return. we're stacked at PF already.
     
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    um utah was toying? watch their body language during the game. game 5 they really went out of their game plan and tried to force a lot of shots, which a sloan-coached team rarely does. the same case happened in game 6 and when tmac single-handedly brought us back, they were nervous.

    did you expect deron to make 5 3pt-shots in that 3rd quarter? it never happened before. did you expect rafer to tweak his injury again? i'm sorry. but we would have won that series if rafer played.
     
  15. sook

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    Yea I'm all for it.

    But...Billups/ Hamilton


    That would make us a complete team, and we could rid of Battier to get some one moree active offensively without losing too much on the defensive side, like artest.

    Yao
    Scola
    Artest
    Rip
    Billups

    AB
    Landry
    (Not sure who else will be a solid contributer off of the bench other than these guys and i also don't think B-Jax was here to stay)
     
  16. sook

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    Teams don't toy with anyone during the playoffs when they were down 0-2. What a stupid thing to say, no offense.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    watch the game please. 2 of the 3 rebounds WERE IN THE PAINT, not at the 3pt line. the other was at the 3pt line and no one blames him for that. i'm blaming him for the 2 rebounds IN THE PAINT.

    but oh, he can't jump high enough, he's not athletic, he cna't box out... yes badgerfan stated them all. rebounds are rebounds. 6 rebounds in game 7 after averaging 11 for the series is unacceptable.
     
  18. wekko368

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    For the last time, the rebounds werent coming to him. And if they arent coming to him, I dont expect him to get them.

    I'm not going to address this anymore. If for whatever reason you're incapable of understanding this basic concept, you're beyond my help.
     
  19. wekko368

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    Sheed is 6-11. He could easily play center. Can you imagine how effective he'd be coming off the bench and backing up Yao? He'd allow Yao to get more rest and we wouldn't lose much on offense.

    We dont necessarily have to trade for a sg. We could go after someone like Ricky Davis.
     
  20. sook

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    Wth???!??!?! They weren't coming to him?!?!?!?!? I have heard some lame bull crap but come on dude. By coming to him do you mean they weren't in the his direction, or that he's just a bad rebounder in general. Boozer who was right next to the guy got them over him, go do a youtube hunt and you will see
     

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