Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

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Yao <<<<<<<<<<<Howard on defense

 

Pierce never smelt the playoffs with out another star, walker, kg, allen.

Don't even compare the 2.

 

Since when is Yao a jump shooting center? He has a solid jump hook and he isnt shooting his fadeaway too far from the basket. And as the season progressed, he took fewer and fewer jump shots beyond the free throw line (unless he was wide open).

How many times did Nate dunk on him? You're going to use that singular event as your evidence that he's not good at defending the paint? Give me a break...

Due to his sheer size, his opponents are forced to change their shots. Thats where his defensive dominance is. Thats common sense....

 

Actually Yao is pretty good at defending the paint. All he has to do is stand still and hold his arms up. His shot blocking numbers aren't outstanding and he's not that athletic but he changes a bunch of shots due simply to his height.

Where Yao gets burned is when he's dragged out of the paint to defend a PF with more agility, like Boozer. In terms of matching up one and on with other centers in the paint though he's pretty good--notice that he usually has excellent games against Tim Duncan and Dwight Howard.

 

Pierce is the Finals MVP.

T-Mac's never been out of the first round.

That's why you can't compare the two.

 

So? Kobe never won a finals MVP?

We are talking about individual talents here, we're not comparing awards.

 

when's the last time T-Mac has played with a former MVP and HOF lock and a multiple time all star and borderline-HOF player?

 

Badger..this statement...right here is the direct evidence of how you have the tendency of hating on tmac a little too much

 

T-Mac talked the talk ("It's on me") but he hasn't walked the walk. It's as simple as that.

 

First of all, if you have no chance of winning the title, getting into the playoffs is pointless. I can make an argument that it actually hurts your team.

Secondly, you're right. Pierce is a better shooter, a champion, and a finals MVP. Tmac doesn't deserve to be compared to PP.

In all seriousness though, theres an entire thread dedicated to PP vs Tmac. If you read it, you'll see that their disparity isnt as wide as you think.

 

Stupid thing to say, i agree. Is that all you can really use to shift the blame on him though? He has done his part badger, it is true whether you like it or not.

You are telling me Pierce is better because he won a finals MVP, totally overlooking the obnoxious talent he has on his team...the guy who couldn't even lead the team to a winning record...come on dude

 

There is no substitute for actually getting it done. None. You can discuss all the hypotheticals you want to but that's just words and not actions. If T-Mac retires tomorrow he'll be a trivia question. "What Hall of Famer never advanced past the first round"?

Yes, Pierce plays on a team with KG and Allen. Guess what? They didn't get the MVP. He did. T-Mac is so far away from that it's like he's in another galaxy.

 

He's a better shooter? From 3 pt yes and FT yes. Midrange..no...is he a better passer? No. Can he take over games...no.

Yup the guy who couldn't do crap before he got 2 stars and then won finals MVP
is better.

What does finals MVP have to do with this argument though? Its based on raw talent between the 2 players. You sicken me with your twisted thinking wecko

 

I don't blame T-Mac at all. But you're talking about comparing somebody who served in the Army and retired in peacetime and never fired a shot in anger with somebody who actually went to war. There's just no way to make a valid comparison.

Yeah, Pierce has some obnoxious talent on his team. But guess what? He won the MVP award over those guys.

 

Wow. You're really underestimating Yao on defense. I only said that his physical limitations (his size) make him too slow to chase down rebounds. In the paint, I think his defense is more effective thand D.Howard's.

And btw, Yao is vastly superior to D.Howard on offense.

 

Read that over. And tell me if that belongs in the same category as the thinking of a sane man. Please, just do it.

 

Do you really think that it was that OBVIOUS he won finals MVP? Ray Ray should have gotten it. He was by far the most consistent in the finals. Pierce is the leader, thats why, the numbers aren't in his favor.

 

Sorry this was the qoute

 

Can't take over games? What about game 7 against Cleveland?

The finals MVP means that he was the best player in the most important series of the year. Talk down about it all you want, but it is what it is. And no, the argument isn't about raw talent. Its about performance.

 

No he's not. Yao shoots fade aways and D. Howard dunks on people. D. Howard already got out of the first round, isn't that why he's better?

Nothing..just using your own logic against you