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Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fbagulbagul, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. rofflesaurus

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    Billups may be three years older than T-Mac, but he plays like he's 3 years younger. All this trade T-Mac talk is getting my hopes up. We better get Billups at PG or I'll be dissapointed!

    the TWO most important positions on a roster is PG and C. Just imagine Yao throwing passes to a wide open Billups on the perimeter.

    Now imagine Yao throwing to T-Mac -- CLANK!
     
  2. caneks

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    Interesting discussion. Back to previous question, do you think Bonzi wells is a superstar because of a few playoff games? If answer is no, then let's back to consider the whole season. I guess You won't want to judge a player by picking one good game and ignore all other 81 bad games?

    Tell me how T-Mac did what a superstar should do in the whole season? His low FG%? low PER? which Superstar has a lower FG% than T-Mac this season? Didn't T-Mac have lower FG% than the team average every season? Do you think that help the team? FG% is a major stat to measure rather than to define a superstar for a player with enough FGA. His FG% is very low and is not in a range a superstar should have.
     
  3. caneks

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    You are making a bad example for your previous post on T-Mac, Yes, check the whole season for LJames, watch his FG% and PER and comparing JLames with T-Mac.
     
  4. clutch citizen

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    Let's not get into semantics. Superstar, all-star, shooting star....whatever you want to call McGrady, it doesn't matter.

    the fact is that when yao is down...the opponent's ENTIRE defensive gameplan is to SHUT DOWN McGrady.

    He is obviously doing something right; otherwise, the teams wouldn't send double and triple teams to McGrady on the PERIMETER.

    This team is built to play well when ALL the components are there. McGrady provides pressure on the perimeter, which frees up Yao inside. Yao provides pressure inside, which frees up McGrady to drive. BOTH Yao and McGrady demand so much attention, role players need to be able to knock down the 3 consistently.

    This team is only a few pieces away from a championship.

    HOWEVER, you have to listen to trades that will improve the team in the same philosophy.

    I would think about a Billups/Hamilton for McGrady trade. Imagine Hamilton running around while Yao has the ball in the post. Imagine Billups waiting for the rotation pass for a spot up 3.

    In a Hamilton/Billups for McGrady trade, you're taking the talent in one position and spreading it throughout the line up.
     
  5. sook

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    What a stupid thing to say, we had no starting PG and starting Center, that makes it a lot harder on a certain player..
     
  6. sook

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    Knows what he's talking about, best post on this thread.
     
  7. vstexas09

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    i saw this on the news...i got so mad....it's just that there's this special duo, and i think one more year will do it...

    no need for a point guard, but for something on the forward position...


    man, this was a downer...when a trade involves a superstar, i get paranoid a little..
     
  8. bugzpodder

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    I don't get it. Why does health matter?
    So what if T-Mac and yao missed a combined 40 games? As long as it is not a season ending injury, and as long as we make the playoffs, it makes very little difference.

    If you make the playoffs, your goal is not the second around. Its the conference finals or nba champs. If you get wiped by a better team then you obviously do not belong in the finals. so as long as rockets make the playoffs and yao and tmac is there to play it (with a bit of warm up near end of the season) then its all good.
     
  9. bugzpodder

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    and for those of you touting home court advantage. look back to our two series with utah, and the time when we beat mavs in their homecourt in the first two games.
     
  10. badgerfan

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    T-Mac's performance in the playoffs was hardly flawless. He's still got a bad habit of disappearing for quarters at a time and that hurt the Rockets. Remember what DD said? They should call T-Mac 75 cents, because he's got no fourth quarter.

    Additionally T-Mac fell back into his old bad habits again. He was a ball stopper and the Rockets offense suffered for it. Was he bad in the playoffs? Not at all. But Pierce just got a Finals MVP. I don't think it makes sense to throw out what he just accomplished just because he happens to play on a team with KG and Allen.
     
  11. ROXTXIA

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    I'm too lazy to post the link, but apparently the Nuggets refused Detroit's offer of Billups + Prince for Carmelo.

    Wow. They could have had Carmelo in the draft. Now they want to give up 40% of their starting lineup when they could have had all 3 in the first place.

    I really don't know if TMac for those two starters is such a bad deal (if a similar offer is on the table, maybe the one Calvin Murphy says we rejected, asking for Rip instead).

    Get a real PG, get a different version of Battier, and you would still have tradeable pieces (Shane, BJax expiring contract, Brooks, Head, picks) to upgrade at the 2.
     
  12. badgerfan

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    Wrong. The motion offense is all about moving without the ball. When was the last time you saw T-Mac do that?
     
  13. badgerfan

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    Remember the game against LA, the last game in the winning streak? How many points did T-Mac score that game? How many other regular season games did he just disappear in?

    Oh, but you say, it can't happen in the playoffs. How exactly do you know that? The point is that Pierce played in a ton more playoff games than T-Mac did. Anyone can have an off night. T-Mac certainly has in the past. If he actually played enough games in the post season instead of going out after six or seven games ever series you might actually see that.
     
  14. R0ckets03

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    Yao would have to play first genius.
     
  15. Rockza

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    holy smoke, dude give it a rest. Go to the numerous other "I Love Yao, I hate TMac thread" geez. Your love for Yao and hate for TMac is not healthy. Seriously dude, its every friggin thread.
     
  16. Rockza

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    Can the moderators here please create an official bash TMac thread for Rofflesaurus, Antisonic, Badgerfan, Wecko and whoever else wants to talk about how much TMac sucks. Do we need to have the same cra p about TMac posted in every friggin thread here? It's one thing to post about the Rockets SOMETIMES, but the above mentioned users ONLY post about either how much TMac sucks or much Yao rocks. This is getting ridiculous.
     
  17. cjstukenholtz

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    I wonder if I should start a thread titled "Is T-Mac an Average Player Rather Than a Superstar?" With what all I have read for the last couple of pages in this thread, that question seems like a rather debatable subject.

    Another thread I think I could start since this subject is debatable as well would be concerning the idea of breaking up the T-Mac/Yao duo this offseason rather than the next offseason.
     
  18. ihatehyena

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    Time is different. A cheap team has little chance for a title.
    I'd rather Rockets trade a bounch of valuable role players for a super star. Look at Celtics, if you have 3 stars, you can easily find the missing pieces.
     
  19. Rockza

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    do whatever the frick you want? But friggin try to consolidate it in one place instead of spreading your hate all over the BBS, especially in totally irrelevant threads.
     
  20. Rockza

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    As for your thread about if TMac is not a superstar, you must be blind.... This is being said in every single thread where TMac's name is mentioned, especially by the above mentioned users.
     

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