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Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fbagulbagul, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. caneks

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    When was Billups considered as a shoot first PG? :eek:
     
  2. Danbury

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    Prince + Billups = No way. Billups + Hamilton = Yes!
     
  3. ericmark

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    Concur.
     
  4. flamingdts

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    Do you really want me to answer that? :eek:
    I'll pretend you never said it.

    Well there are a lot of biased fans here. Sure McGrady is not perfect. But some people here mentioned landry and scola filling the SF spot? Thats nuts!
    We need to give these guys one more year. We were just too good this year to break apart now. As far as I know, McGrady can lead a team filled with scrubs and rookie but still end up with the best second half record of the 2007-08 season. That is good enough for me.

    Billups is a shoot first type point guard, and he is not a consistent player. A non-consistent player who doesn't pass = FAIL.

    Prince. Non-consistent as well. He may have size, but I'll still take battier's defense over size. Battier can hold off kobe, can prince? Now going to the offensive end. Battier's 3 pointers may not be the best, but he at least hits mosts of his open 3s and is the most consistent 3 point shooter in the rockets. Prince is not a consistent 3 point shooter, nor is he even close to a second option scorer.

    Bottom line is, Billups-Prince for McGrady is horrible. And those that agree and known mcgrady bashers.

    Ill consider taking Billups+Hamilton. But Billups+Prince.... No.
     
  5. ibm

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    since when billups has been a shoot-first pg?
     
  6. AXG

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    I hope it's not true. Billups is up there in years and is losing his explosiveness. Prince is a decent player, but he plays the same position as Battier, meaning the Rockets need a good shooting guard.
     
  7. R0ckets03

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    Lets say we make this trade (which I no way in hell make), and like usual Yao goes down. Who the hell is leading this team? Rafer, Prince, Billups, Hamilton? LOL! :rolleyes:

    History has always taught us that you don't trade a superstar for two good players.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    um always has been if you follow the NBA as closely as you should.
     
  9. caneks

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    Welcome to the real world, Bro. T-Mac is not a superstar this season, his PER is not even in the top 40.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    if you go by PER, he was a superstar in the playoffs and that is the only thing that matters. he was inconsistent this past reg. season but it didn't hurt the team's record that much did it? it's all about the playoffs and tmac shows up 99% of the time.
     
  11. larsv8

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    Tmac not a superstar ? lol
     
  12. Jeff Who

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    that means you don't know anything about bball. sorry, but don't look only in STATS.

    If you look only at 'per' it means Maggette was better than Tracy.
     
  13. caneks

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    So you think 6 playoff games meaning more than 82 regular games? According to your theory, Bonzi Wells played a few good playoff game, he was a superstar too?

    BTW, The reason that T-Mac has a high PER in playoff games this year is mainly because he took a huge amount of FGA, actually the #1 in the league with 24.3 per game, at least 2 more than any other player in the league. Please also check his FG% for the playoff.

    With low efficiency, T-Mac wasted offensive opportunities on the court. That do harm to the team. Regarding the 4 years that T-Mac played as rockets, he never played in the same level as he did in Magic. I won't say he is inconsistent, his stats are quite close in the last 4 years.
     
  14. Thefabman

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    i hope they dont trade tmac, all we need is good health
     
  15. t_mac1

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    um, you do not know what you are talking about. you said he had low efficiency and yet his high FGA helped his PER? know PER before speaking please.

    his effiency wasn't great, but his PER was high because he also put up 8 rebounds and 6.8 assists my friend. he also put up 1.5 steals along with 1 blocks per game. that's how he also helped the team. that's what you call a superstar -> they fill up the stat sheet and do everything the team asks them to do.

    27, 8, 7, please, now you're saying he wasted other people's opportunities? did you know the player with the highest fg% on the team was scola at 44.8%? tmac shot 42.5%. that's a 2% difference. nobody shot 50-55% that make you think tmac should have passed.

    and since you think he didn't pass by the insinuation that he wasted other's opportunities, where did he get the 7 assists? out of thin air?

    only tmac haters would say 27, 8, 7 are wasting other teammates' opportunities and not a star performance? you ask any other team in the L what they want and they would gladly pray for that type of performance.

    tmac could have played better and he should. but he was playing with 2 injuries and without 2 of his starters.
     
  16. caneks

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    PER doesn't measure whether a player is a superstar or not. But a superstar should have a relatively high PER. Yes, you are right. In term of FG%, T-Mac is not even in the top 100 of qualified players. and you think this is what a superstar should have?
     
  17. t_mac1

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    lebron's fg% in the playoffs sucked balls. did he play like a superstar though? YES. now go think about that logic why lebron still played like a superstar. :rolleyes:
     
  18. Jeff Who

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    Man you don't understand one thing. Stats don't tell you everything. Superstar should have the abillity to carry its team. Tracy has showsn he is able to do that. HEALTH - that is the only thing he needs.

    Please, don't look only at stats.
     
  19. HillBoy

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    OK, so if we don't look at stats then how about we look at results instead?
     
  20. Jeff Who

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    i didn't mean 'don't look at stats' i meant don't look at stats only.

    a lot of people just see ppg, etc and the think it is everything. there are a lot of acpects of bball that you won't see in boxscore
     

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