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Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fbagulbagul, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. t_mac1

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    he was big shot for ONE PLAYOFF SERIES V. THE SPURS. that's it.

    all i know is billups is not their best player anymore. they won v. orlando basically without him. stuckey is more than a replaceament for the guy in the next few yrs (which is why dumars is willing to part with him). i'm sure morey asked for hamilton and prince, but they need scoring. adding tmac with hamilton and prince -> you have the best perimeter scoring trio in the L. add to that the penetration of stuckey and growth of maxielle, that team is scary. now if we give that team landry, it's straight up robbery for detroit.

    if we don't get hamilton, we better make another trade for a SG.
     
  2. Hobbs

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    I don't think Landry would have a role in Detroit. They already have a couple PFs that they are high on. Head or Brooks would as a backup guard, so they could be it.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    lebron, wade average more assist. pierce plays similar to those guys dude. do you even watch basketball?

    pierce, kobe, lebron, wade, tmac are in the same mold. they are all playmakers. PGs don't matter to them. you just put a guy who bring the ball up past half-court and they get the ball. what difference does it make?
     
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    I heard Farris passed out at Baskin Robbins trying all 32 flavors.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    if they trade sheed, maxielle would be forced into the starting lineup. landry would play the maxiel role of 15-20 mins a game.
     
  6. Hobbs

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    Completely incorrect. I believe he has a little thing called the Finals MVP for what he did against the Lakers. He also earned the nickname for what he did before that. He had a year where he hit a ton of game winning or tying shots in the last 30 seconds. It was just amazing. Brown didn't like him doing that and would often call up plays for Sheed to take the last shot (he usually missed). Saunders floated around to different guys to take the last shot.
     
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    One more time: what's the difference between Rondo and House?
     
  8. t_mac1

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    house is NOT a PG. same comparison b/t rafer and head.

    you're probably the same dude who went crazy over the point-forward discussion right? :rolleyes:
     
  9. Hobbs

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    I'm not sure Max would start. Amir Johnson is who they're really interested in at that spot. Dumars specifically mentioned him as a reason Saunders was shown the door. They are very, very high on him. Again, I don't see Landry having a spot at all unless they deal Max elsewhere.
     
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    all i know is that trade leaves a gaping hole at SG. we're doomed if we don't have another trade on our sleeve.
     
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    If they keep Rasheed for the entire season, then his Value as an expiring contract is not captured.

    Call around this summer and look for a Motivated Seller that would be interested in an expiring contract.


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  12. t_mac1

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    again, mcdyess is hitting 35. landry will have a spot, trust me. they need more athleticism and landry fits that to a T. maxielle and landry playing together would be 2 athletic freaks trying to dunk every ball they see.
     
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    The point you don't seem to understand is that it's commonly accepted that House can score while Rondo is more of a playmaker. When he's on the court the Celtics are going to suffer offensively relative to what House can provide. But the Celtics started Rondo anyway because he can rack up the assists.

    If Rondo's the designated playmaker why would Pierce be racking up the assists? And from what I recall when Rondo did see less playing time in the Lakers series Pierce's APG did go up to around 6.
     
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    Billups was Finals MVP in the win over the Lakers. He also convert the 3 at around .400.
     
  15. Hobbs

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    You would be wrong. Neither Max, Amir or Landry can play center for any appreciable period of time. They have room for a center, not a pf/sf.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    um that's the EXACT thing that happens when rafer and tmac or head and tmac are on the court together.

    tmac still racks up the dimes. when rafer played 44 minutes last yr, tmac still put up 7.5 assists v. the jazz dude.

    pierce's not the playmaker tmac is. case closed.
     
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    So suddenly Head's some kind of pass first PG? :rolleyes: What are you smoking? I think Head comes in for a lot of unwarranted criticism but he's not a playmaker.

    As for the Jazz series I seem to remember that Alston didn't play in a bunch of those games due to injury. If Alston's out does it then seem reasonable that T-Mac would take over some of his duties?

    Again, it's all about the specific team and the specific situation. T-Mac is a genuine good passer, better than Pierce. But Pierce has his own qualities. He's shown that he can restrain his own ego and be part of a big three. He stepped up big time in the playoffs when his team needed him. Wilbon said that of the Celtics' big three Pierce surprisingly enough was the most impressive player.
     
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    with the teams going small nowadays, would it make a difference b/t a PF or C?

    we played a lot with scola/hayes combo when deke was out and yao was injured?

    i'm sure landry would find a spot, trust me. plus, dumars is also going young in anticipation of the older guys declining. stuckey, afflalo, maxiell, amir, now add on landry.
     
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    dude head is a SHOOT-FIRST PG (he is technically a SG like house but he handles the ball like house when he subs for rafer).

    i was referring to the series last yr. rafer was the PG and avg 5 assists during the reg. season. so rafer did create. but tmac is the better playmaker so he makes more plays -> more asists. same thing with wade, lebron, kobe, joe johnson.... or any other good perimeter playmakers. paul pierce is in that group. he's just not as good of a playmaker.
     
  20. IamKhan

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    griz wants scolar for miller, so if we do get sheed+ billups for tmac, that's the trade we can do.

    sheed + billups for tmac + head
    scolar + bjax + 25 for miller + their first round pick

    billups/miller/battier/sheed/yao, very good starting 5, all we need is a wing scorer to go with alston/landry/deke/brooks/hayes to form a deep bench
     

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