Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

pierce shot 44%. tmac shot 42.5%. it's not that big of a deal my friend. all i'm saying is even if you bring michael redd here to team him up with yao and tracy, if tracy ever put up 19, 5, 4 in the playoffs, how would you rate him? that's not a superstar performance.

 

Wilbon's a pro. He knows what he's talking about. Presumably that's why he works for ESPN. And yet somehow you want to argue that you, some nameless guy on a bulletin board, are more of an expert on basketball than he is?

 

That depends on who he's playing with. If he was playing with KG and Allen I'd say that's kind of understandable given that it's assumed he's going to be sharing scoring duties with two other legitimate superstars.

 

just heard a rumor that someone knows someone from media relations and he says t-mac will be traded for billups and sheed on draft day.

 

are you serious? chris paul's stats were 24 and 11 taking a team with lesser talent on the brink of the WCF is less impressive than pierce putting up 19, 5, 4 on a team loaded with talent. are you serious?

kobe putting up 32, 7, 6 on 51% is not more impressive?

i never said he wasn't a pro. but journalists are about opinions. it's not a doctor stating something factual about a diagnosis. sports are mostly about opinions. what facts did he bring in to substantiate his opinion?

people like you just don't have your own opinions i guess. maybe that's why guys like stephen A smith once has his OWN show b/c people do listen to him .

 

that statement is fine with me. i never refuted that. i was pointing out games where he was GHOSTLIKE (a non-factor). you should never have those games sharing scoring duties with 2 other stars. he was also their main playmaker so he also should have avg more assists.

 

I wonder if Scola or Landry can move to SF.

 

that's a bad trade if that's all morey can ask for. dumars will make out like a king as usual. if no hamilton, we're doomed. unless he's trading either scola/landry for a SG.

but hey, sometimes seeking change for the sake of it is how people do it. i hope by tomorrow, morey can squeeze hamilton in there.

 

Scola? You have to be kidding. And I'm not sure if Landry has the handles for the position. They might use him there sometimes, depending on matchups, but the Scola/Landry combo is great. Why mess with a good thing.

 

The Rockets make out like felons if it is just McGrady for Billups and Sheed. Billups is an incredibly efficient player on offense and, while the smaller point guards give him some trouble, he is a very smart team defender. Sheed is one of the best defensive big men in the game and fits perfectly with Yao. He can soak up the backup center minutes and allow the smaller PF/SF tweeners the Rockets have to suffice for most of the backup bigmen spots. People don't realize how good Sheed is until they watch him every game. Obviously he flakes out on occasion, but he really is a great player to pair with a star.

I'm guessing, but based on salaries, Scola or Head or Brooks might also be going to Detroit.

IF this trade happens of course.

 

Not endorsing the deal, but you can have Head. Scola or Brooks? No way!

 

our defense was already top notch. what we want are players who can consistently put the ball in the hole when the going gets tough. sheed is not that guy. billups's efficient? first time i ever heard of that.

that's why i wanted hamilton. he was their go-to guy and he's willing to take big shots. we already have a load at PF. i would imagine like you said scola or landry would have to come back to detroit b/c they're not gonna give their PF starter away just like that. i would imagine it's landry though b/c maybe we don't want to deal with his potential asking price.

 

the guy from media relations says t-mac, billups and sheed are the main parts of the trade.

 

That depends on what role they're playing on their team. Given how Kobe dominates the ball (and that's probably a bad thing in terms of his team's overall success) is it any surprise that he's putting up big numbers?

On the other hand Pierce is one out of three superstars on the Celtics. And what's really remarkable is how all three of them were able to submerge their egos and play unselfish, team oriented basketball.

As for Wilbon's opinion on Pierce, do you read the sports pages at all? When it comes down to do or die time Pierce is clutch. He steps up when it's required of him. And the rest of the time he plays within the team.

As for my opinions, I don't feel like sitting down with Stephen Hawking and telling him he's all screwed up about black holes. I like to read about b-ball, I like to post here. But that's Wilbon's job and he's been doing it for years. I defer to expertise when the guy clearly knows more than I do. He could still be wrong, but I'm not going to just ignore years of experience. Maybe next time you break a limb you can try setting it yourself without visiting a doctor.

 

Even more than their PG?

 

tmac has more assists than rafer right? kobe had more assists than fisher right? paul handles the ball more than rondo right?

basketball logic 101. PGs don't necessarily mean more assists. nowadays, who is the playmaker. PG doesn't necessarily mean playmaker.

 

Detroit doesn't have a go to guy in the traditional sense. If they wanted a big basket any of Billups, Rip or Tay were the ones they went to. But, Billups got the nickname Big Shot for a reason. He was the go to guy down the stretch for Carlisle and delivered repeatedly.

In broader terms, Billups scored like .3 ppg less than Rip and did it a ton fewer shots. Billups has a lot of games like 4-10 fgs, 9-9 fts for 19 points. Not to mention he never, never turns the ball over. Billups is definitely efficient. You can't just look at FG%. You have to adjust for the 3s and for the free throws and then add in the A/to. Very efficient.

 

landry is not a starter so technically, he could be the player no one talks about. those are the 3 stars so those are the main parts.

 

I'm guessing that Scola/Battier aren't in the mix because surely they'd be considered major components. Maybe the rest of the package includes guys like Novak/Head/etc.?

 

So from a couple of exceptions you're going to try to derive a general rule?

Here's an easy question for you: what's the difference between Rajon Rondo and Eddie House?