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Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fbagulbagul, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. Corpusfan

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    I just don't think giving up a dynamic scorer like McGrady is the right move for the Rockets, even if they get good defenders and an excellent shooter in return. At best it's a lateral move. I think we need to feel sure a move is going to make the Rockets appreciably better before pulling the trigger. It's easy to forget the Rockets played without Yao for much of last season, and were pretty damn good. He's coming back, and we should all be excited because even if they stood pat, the Rockets could be very good this year. Sometimes tweaking the roster a little can help more than making the big trade. It just seems that people posting here are too willing to give the stamp of approval to any major trade, just for the sake of change. Let's wait for the right one -- or if it doesn't happen, make smart smaller moves to improve the team.
     
  2. fayesun

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    then we could
    Battier+Alston=backup C+a sg better than head
     
  3. sook

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    Can someone SERIOUSLY START A THREAD ABOUT THIS?

    Ok...so i do surf other forums and ANY topic about trading with the rockets comes to the SHARP SHOOTING of Luther Head.

    I guess they haven't had the misfortune of watching him play in the playoffs
     
  4. hmittal

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    I agree! You have to give Yao and TMAC one full healthy season before determining to split them up. What we need to do is get a solid point guard who can distribute the ball. Trading McGrady is not the solution yet! We would have advanced if Yao was not injured this season.

     
  5. Hayesfan

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    Tell you what sook... I will start one for you.
     
  6. hmittal

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    I would trade Battier, Alston, and Head for Billups, but that would depend on how the players salaries are structured. I like the brandon rush idea or someone similar. I'm always in favor of the rockets drafting a solid point guard in the draft, look what happened to Utah and New Orleans when they drafted point guards.

     
  7. hmittal

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    KEEP DROOLING & DREAMING! AINT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN! This is Houston not Boston, we are not going to get 3 all stars in one year!

     
  8. rterry

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    I'm going to post this one in the Random Trade Thread also:

    Rockets trade Tracy Mcgrady and 25th pick, 2nd Round pick

    Pistons trade Sheed, Billups

    New Jersey trades Jefferson, 10th pick

    Mcgrady goes to Pistons
    Sheed to New Jersey along with Rockets 25th and 2nd rounder
    Billups, Jefferson, and 10th pick to Rockets

    Rockets make out like bandits. Can package Battier and expirings for more depth at PG, C, or SG.

    Detroit gets their superstar and gets rid of Sheed.

    New Jersey jetisons Jeffersons contract and gets an expiring in place of it, plus 2 draft picks in a deep draft.

    Works in realgm
     
  9. JLOBABYDADDY

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    Well wipe your mouth cuz WE STILL DON'T HAVE A BENCH!!!!!!!! That lineup is garbage in the west. We need TMac. Only way I would tweak the starters is Battier for Artest or Alston + BJax + Head for a point guard or solid 2 guard. Other than that, this would be a bad move. Yao goes down or gets in foul trouble, its all on Artest to carry us. Can he carry us to 50 wins? Without Yao, we have very similar talent to this year's Sacremento team. Do we really want that in the West. Please quit trying to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade.
     
  10. rterry

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    It actually does help your bench because Alston would become the backup point guard we need. We would still need a backup SG, unless Artest could play that role at times (doubtful). But don't worry it would never happen. Battier could never fetch Artest.
     
  11. sook

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    Thanks a lot Hayesfan ;)
     
  12. t_mac1

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    you're comparing kobe to the 2nd best SG of ALL-TIME. yea, if we compare yao to hakeem or even patrick ewing, he's not even close. what's your point?

    billups is consistent? put the pipe down. he shoots the same % as tmac.

    when tmac struggles with his shot, you know he's going to dominate in the passing game and rebounding. if billups or prince are off, how are they going to contribute (prince can dominate with D) but not the offensive side. both had a lot of inconsistency in this past playoffs (hell the past 3 playoff runs).

    again, you're comparing tmac to the 2nd best SG of all tiem and the best player today. compare tmac to paul pierce and tmac is like GOD.
     
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    what happens when Yao is injured: not that important. It's not like we're going to have a strong chance of winning a championship with one of our superstars on the bench. We need to have the best team ASSUMING our major pieces are healthy. If anything, I'd try to get somebody that would let us limit Yao's minutes.. to 25, say?

    giving Yao/McGrady core another chance: well, we did come within two games of finishing first in the West. No need to panic. If we do nothing, we are still better, because Scola, Landry, and Brooks will be improving much. Still, I'd like to see at least some improvement in personnel.

    prince and battier on the same team: They don't have to play together the whole game. You could bring Battier off the bench, play them together 10 minutes, and for the whole game have at least one of them on the court for defense.
     
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    exactly, without yao for 30 games + without tmac for 15 games, we were within 2 GAMES of first place and went on a 22-game winning (half of it without yao)?

    if healthy, we are clearly a top 2 team in this L and the best in the west.
     
  15. Jeff Who

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    the problem is : we just gotta stay healthly and damn show that to everybody

    but I agree
     
  16. wekko368

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    Well, Billups can also pass. And honestly, I dont care about Tmac's rebounding. Very rarely do you see him fighting an opponent for a rebound. More often than not, he's taking a rebound that we would already be getting. To me, a ball-handler should focus on rebounds when he wants to push the ball (like Kidd/Magic). But Tmac doesnt like to push.

    True, they have had playoff inconsistency, but they've also been integral pieces of a championship team.

    I dont feel like proving this statement wrong right now. Go read through the thread that addresses this.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    wekko, is there ANYTHING that tmac is good at according to you? every player is better than tmac lol. you would make a great GM.

    pierce can go for 6 pts in game 3 and you can defend him while tmac puts up a near triple double in a loss and you criticize his 4th quarter. funny guy.
     
  18. wekko368

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    He's a good passer, but not the only good passer in the league.

    The celtics do not rely on pierce the way the rockets relied on tmac. Do you realize that?
     
  19. hlmbasketball

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    You bring up some good points. I also like Michael Redd!! I don't think he will necessarily be a liabilty on the defensive end. Look at Ray Allen at Boston. I think T-Mac is better than Pierce, and Yao is better than Garnett, which brings me to my second point. The thing with the Rockets is putting additional players around Yao and McGrady. We all have seen what they can do together, the problem has been lack of production from the surrounding cast and staying healthy. If you trade T-Mac and Yao goes down, where will we be then???? You never trade a Star Player unless you get a Star in return.
     
  20. megastahr

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    Calvin Murphey just released information from a source close to the houston rockets. The information was that the rockets are not interested in a deal sending mcgrady for any deal involving billups. However, they are very interested in a deal involving Rip Hamilton.

    I love this place, but I am not trying to be arrogant...but I was worried that morey might go for billups cause most people on here wanted him. Prince, billups for mcgrady is a latteral move. Logically Hamilton and Prince or Hamilton and Wallace makes since from the business side seeing at Wallace and Jacksons expiring contracts next year leave us with 18 mil to spend in free agency.

    Also, from a game sense as Rasheed at the 4 and Hamiltons (much better shooting than mcgrady) Will make Yao the best player in the NBA. Also it rip and prince allows use to rely on scola and landry at the 4 and gives us that 6th man we as a team have never had...either him or battier. Plus it makes our team younger and healthier.

    Mcgrady for billups and prince is bad because we have an adequate SF and and prince is no SG. Billups would further back log our PG situation where we are fine at...along with replacing a long expensive contract with an even longer just high contract for a player who is no healthier than Mcgrady.

    GO ROCKETS BRASS! I am excited they are thinking like me lol.
     

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