Pippen "KG is the most overrated underacheiver in the NBA"

Wow. It's a pretty big indication of how bad Garnett must be in the clutch if the only time he got past the 1st round was because of a "shaky/injured" PG and "an out of prime" SG. Troy Hudson took the clutch shots for Minny n the playoffs the year before Cassell/Spree arrived, and they took the clutch shots the year the Wolves got out of the first round. Garnett's a very good-great player and I have nothing against him. He comes to play every night but to put it bluntly, all he's ever been is a fantasy basketball stat monster.

 

Sammy and Troy Hudson are the type of players that will jack up the ball even if KG did want to shoot it.
Lets get this straight, Kg takes the game changing shot all the time,he is not scared to. Make it or miss it, youre either the hero or the goat,right now hes missed more than hes made, so hes the goat. If he finishes his career like this than I agree with you,however,he has 4-6 good years left, and many final shots to take. I dont think its fair to classify him as a Cwebb or a scottie Pippen(who refused to take the final shot)just because hes missed more shots than hes made when being double or triple teamed.
I respect him for trying to take the shot make or miss

 

37 pts and 10rebs tonight
15 of 17 from the line
beat Sac
thats a solid game tonight

 

Exactly. The irony is that KG might actually be one of the more underrated players in the game, because his teams have been so mediocre and so many people blame him for it.

 

LOL
KG > Pippen

 

in the end, anyone who knows anything about basketball will recognize and respect KG's spot amongst the legends of the game. he is one of the best PF's ever, and one of the best all-around players in the history of the sport. his versatility is second to none as well. there isn't another 7 footer that i've seen that can legitimately play every single postition on the floor at an nba all-star level.

there may never be another player like KG, and it may take years for a lot of people to realize that. I love watching KG play, he plays the game the way it supposed to be played. smart, hard, with passion, and to have fun. he is truly a joy to watch.

 

Id take Garnett over pippen any day. Imagine, Olajuwan, Barkley and Garnett insteada pippen.

 

Agreed.

 

Well . to be fair
we didn't get his CLUTCHINESS because unless i'm mistaken
he chose to sit on the bench

and Toni K. maybe a lil better than most of KG's
teammates not named Sam or Spree

Rocket River
. . .to be fair

 

Whoa, I like KG and all, but I think you are overstating the case a little. All-star level PG or SG? I think he might be able to adequately play the positions, but there is no evidence that he could consistently play at an all-star level. It's not like he has a 3 point shot or evidence that he could beat point guards off of the dribble.

He has the potential to be the best second banana of all time - but he needs to get to a team with a first banana before he can take the title away from the other contenders (I'm not willing to cede it to Scottie).

 

The only criticism I might have of KG is that, maybe, he doesn't have that Kobe-esque killer instinct. Otherwise, I'll take 21 points, 12 rebounds, and 4+ assists per game from a power forward ANY TIME.

 

That was one game. Why ignore the other 6 years of him stepping up big in the playoffs?

Playoff Averages:
Year PPG RPG APG STL BLK
1990-91 21.6 8.9 5.8 2.5 1.1 Champs
1991-92 19.5 8.8 6.7 1.9 1.1 Champs
1992-93 20.1 6.9 5.6 2.2 0.7 Champs
1993-94 22.8 8.3 4.6 2.4 0.7 Round 2 (without MJ)
1994-95 17.8 8.6 5.8 1.4 1.0
1995-96 16.9 8.5 5.9 2.6 0.9 Champs
1996-97 19.2 6.8 3.8 1.5 0.9 Champs
1997-98 16.8 7.1 5.2 2.1 1.0 Champs

Pip is an a-hole and his tenure with Houston was garbage, but he played large in Chicago. Please name be a better SF in the game during that time....

 

Umm...I see there is some confusion as to why Pippen refused to enter that game when Kukoc took and make the final shot.

Pippen refused to enter because he WANTED the ball, he WANTED the final shot to win it or lose it for the team, not because he was shying away or quitting on the team. His competitiveness and ego got in the way, no doubt about it, it was immature of him and one minor blemish on his career.

However, to make it sound like he wimped out or something is completely false.

Pippen was a f*king warrior, love him or hate him, I would STILL make him my starting SF on my All-time NBA team (yes, ahead of Bird, not because he's a better scorer, but because he's better at everything else and has the 'intangibles' of toughness, the best man-2-man defender in history of the league, and has the athleticism edge over Bird).

You Pippen haters crack me up! Yes, he has a sucky personality, is arrogant as hell, and reminds me of Kobe in that way (personality-wise). But since when does scoring more make you a better player? If that were the case, then Mitch Richmond and Glibert Arenas will be two of the best guards of all-time.

Give me a winner and a warrior anyday of the week, I only wish there were more Pippens in the league today...

 

Pippen over Bird? Man, I know I am biased against Pippen. But this is the first time I've heard anyone put Pippen over Bird. He is better at everything else? About the only things Pippen was better than Bird were athleticism and defense. What "everything esle" are you talking about other than these two things? And Bird doesn't measure up in intangibles like toughness?

 

It depends on the team. If I'm relying on my SF to be a defensive stopper then yes I would pick Pippen over Bird. That's probably the only scenario though...

 

i know scottie could D up as good as anyone, but i would NEVER take scottie over larry.

defense is important, and larry was by no means a good defender. but at the same time so is leadership, clutch play, and pure toughness. larry personifies those three important aspects to a "t".

scottie was no leader, wasn't the go to guy on any of his teams in the nba, and wasn't as tough as bird. sorry, i go with larry everytime.

 

Scottie Pippen =

 

So if he's the most overrated underachiever, that means he should be labeled less of an underachiever?

 

That's what I meant, some apparently didn't understand me well, so let me clarify...

What I said was that if I was building my All-time NBA team (emphasis on team), I would start Pippen over Bird. On that same squad, I would have Jordan, Dream/Kareem, Magic, and Duncan; I wouldn't have a need for another scorer and offensive threat, but I would need more of a guy that can compliment that team well, and no one has ever been as good a "Mr. do-it-all" as Pippen has. His defense alone puts him in a class by himself; his defense is game-changing and in a playoff series it would become series-changing (just ask Magic or Mark Jackson).

That's all I am saying. If I am building a TEAM, Pippen would be easily my starting SF.

 

i would just use jordan as the defensive stopper on the wing, and keep bird at the SF. therefore you still have an elite level defender and two of the greatest offensive players in history.