girls don't think like us dude. i know a few "ugly" guys that pull some beautiful women. can't think of any ugly girls that date good looking guys.
Exactly man. Thats how we (guys) are. Women are very very different. Your right that there are some women no matter how good your game is you will not get. However when it comes to women you would be suprised how little a role physical appearance plays.
You guys should download the video's by Neil Straus (AKA Style) called Annilation Method and Mystery Method by Mystery and LoveDrop. That sheet works but may wreck your marriage.
I have never understood this type of mentality. To me, it comes across as someone who is incredibly selfish and would never want to be in a long-term monogamous relationship. I mean I might be coming across as harsh but it sounds like to me that all you care about is "scoring" and not really anything else that goes on in having a relationship with a woman. Oh well - if doing stuff like this makes you happy, more power to you. However, I couldn't do it and I don't think I am missing out on anything.
Manny I see your point. In order to understand mine you need to realize that... A) I'm 25 years old and not looking to get married till about 30-35 B) I travel all over the place all the time. I might be in Colombia for 2 months then Peru for 3 months then Panama for 2 weeks and back to the US for a month. This kind of lifestyle makes it incredibly difficult to maintain any type of honest monogamous relationship. (I have tried) C) I am not trying to score with every girl I see. It is great to have more friends and like I stated earlier if I choose to pursue it I choose to do so but Im not trying to keep a tally or run up as many as I can right now. So as you can see right now we are on different wavelengths my friend. I hope to one day when my life is more stable, settle down and have a family. When I do that I will still maintain these skills in my lifestyle because they benefit me to do so. Although I will not be using them to cheat or ruin a wonderful thing I have with my wife.
Rox_fan_here, Thanks for the response. I realized after I posted, I did come across as harsh. I understand where you are coming from. What I should have said is this: Every girl I have dated (including my wife) was one that I always looked at being a potential long-term serious relationship. If I didn't feel that the potential for that exists, then I didn't bother with asking them out. Obviously, not everyone feels like I do on this and I should have couched my comments more carefully. I knew plenty of guys in college who were always looking to go out with girls - some wanted to go out with a different girl every week. Like you said, they just weren't ready to settle down. I, on the other hand, was ready to settle down when I was 22 (I'm 34 now), lol. I envy the fact that you get to do a lot of travelling - that would be something that would appeal to me, especially when I was in my 20s.
Thats great that you did that. You knew exactly what you wanted and went for it. Actually before I started traveling and when I began I was the same way. I always was in a steady relationship and remained faithful. I did not see the point in dating just to date. However once my lifestyle changed it made this very difficult and I was forced to change with it. At heart I want to return to that life and the security and love I feel with just one woman. Till my life settles down though, I try to make the most of the situation.
First off, I thought most of the shows tips were B.S. BUT he did have some sound advice. And to Manny: You talk about only wanting liking term relationships. If these technique help to build your confidence up enough to go over to that girl you want for a LTR, I see it as only beneficial.
And most, if not all of the guys on the show were looking for a LTR, not a one night stand. They were just too scared to even approach a woman. You'll never have a LTR, or much success in life, for that matter, if you're too scared to even approach a stranger and start a conversation.
I agree there are SOME ugly guys that can pull beatiful women...maybe they are rich. But the majority? Not usually. Women care about looks less than guys do, but it is still a factor. Even on "The Pickup Artist," they told the fat guy he was good at starting sets and using techniques, but that his problem was he didn't "build attraction." Well...maybe it was because he was a fat guy talking to hot girls. I bet he would have done better talking to other fat girls. I think this show might set people up for frustration if they think they can go pull a supermodel using these techniques.
I read part of "The Game", and like other people says, it's really more about common sense than anything else. 1. play hard to get 2. have something interesting to say 3. show your good characters 4. be confident if you have those, then you don't have to learn those sets. The "sets" are really just opening lines for people who can't think up a interesting line themselves.
I enjoyed the show, however, I recently discovered that like most "reality" shows are doing now, this one might have been fake. I don't think the girls they hit on where in on it, but the guys are not who they claimed to be. The winner "Kosmo" was portrayed as a video game programmer, when in fact he's an actor. So all the crying and lack of confidene he allegedly had could all have been an act. Kosmo And the runnerup Brady....well turns out he's a male model. Not exactly the losers they were supposed to be. Brady
Basically the show is a big scam. What Mystery wants is people to buy his videos and go to his classes at $500/video and $5000/weekend sessions. There is alot of money to made and he and others are capitalizing on it. Him and Strauss who wrote "The Game" to sell videos and sessions. I was able to download the videos from a torrent but they are very expensive to buy legit. The sheet works there is no doubt about it. But the show doesn't really let you get all the good info. It just gives you enough to tease you into buying more. Like books and videos. The problem with it is that IF too many guys in an area do this the chicks get the hang of the PUA. Thats why the show wasn't run in LA. In LA there are so many PUA that the girls would laugh at you if you ran the pickup lines they use to open sets. I don't know this for sure but what you just posted just makes sense.
I don't doubt the techniques work, but they just should have been honest about who these guys where because I think when this gets out people will think all of it is a scam.
Don't you understand that this very thing is also what makes most women happy too? Our mothers raised us to think about monogamy and treating women like queens, but in reality, most women, epsecially those out at nightclubs or in Vegas think just like guys, they just hide it better. This is why the game stuff works.