You're right, daywalker02. Let me apologize to you if you feel I've insulted you. My comments on the insults levied at Chris Bosh after the fact aren't directed at you personally, but at those that wanted Bosh here (or anywhere else) and are now disgusted with him, and don't see him as all that good a player. Hard to convey sarcasm on an internet message board, my friend. As far as the media whoring goes and went, it takes two to tango. Bosh is a young man, as well. He has never seen the attention and admiration as a player that he saw the past couple of weeks. In an age where having said Twitter account is about as commonplace as pocket lint, Bosh behaved about as well (or not) as could be expected, in my opinion. Those types of things are more or less immaterial. Bosh also didn't owe anybody any particular courtesy for listening to offers or having his own agenda firmly in his mind. That's what free agents do. We're not going to like alot of the media dance surrounding it. But that's the way it is. Bosh has just as much at stake as does LeBron James and Dwayne Wade, to me, daywalker02. He's a very good offensive player. Good face-up game, good jumpshot, good finisher around the basket. But to help create the chemistry and balance that the Heat are going to need, I feel that Bosh has to become a better all-round player, especially defensively, and especially as a big man. No doubt that the Heat are going to have to get some big men who can defend and rebound inside. But Bosh is the player that is most capable of doing that consistently, and at the levels that would make Miami champions. We'll see what happens, daywalker02. Again, I don't want you to feel personally picked on by some of my comments.
Could you explain to me what has you believe that Dwayne Wade is a better player than LeBron James, knote32? I don't want to be facetious or condescending towards you with this. I have my idea, but I like hearing what other people have to say. My feeling is that, as far as playing style goes, Wade and James are remarkably similar. If you rate Wade higher than LeBron because Wade's already won a title, that's fair; but then you have to consider the team Wade was on. But what most people seem to believe is that Wade, somehow, is more correctly wired mentally, that he has what it takes to win when it matters most, where LeBron does not. I believe that, even if that's true, it doesn't matter too much. Both of the young men have the wiring mentally to win when it counts, in my opinion. Immaturity and ego and frustration appear from time to time because of human nature. Not a need to make excuses for failure. LeBron exhibited enough frustration in his final postseason season series as a Cavalier to convince me that he'd gotten tired of bailing out a team that was supposed to be helping him win, just as much as he was giving them the opportunity by his level of play. How that team could play so badly after posting the regular season it had was inexcusable. Nobody says a word about that, because to the huge target on LeBron's back, knote32. James is one of those RARE players who can control a game without scoring a point. Like Magic Johnson was repeatedly praised for doing during his playing days. I don't necessarily believe that that's the best use of James' talent at this stage of his career. But it is how James plays best. What do you think, my friend? James is a coward for not struggling to win on his own? Do you think he's unwilling to take the last shot to win a game? Is he too pampered and immature to get his hands dirty?
I would say I like your long, elaborate comments. I feel you are one of the more correct posters on this board. Let me clear this up. I did not actually think you addressed it toward me but I failed to sense the sarcasm. I was personally disappointed about Chris and his decision but it won't have me stir a feud because of his person. I am a passionate fan and sometimes too hard headed. I know I should wish Chris the best for his future. Basically I am still in awe and perplexed that this actually is happening with the three amigos. Never thought this would happen. This is unreal. I probably would like them as much as the Celts whom I like because of their color and tradition. Rest assured, mdrowe00, you are one friendly poster, good to have you here. If you feel that I was picked on then you can be sure I am not.
I think they are much closer in terms of overall talent than people usually believe. Not that these numbers mean anything at all, but they are fun to look at. These, to me, are the biggest stat stuffing years these two will ever have. The roles they played in were conducive to complete domination. Lebron James 09-10... PPG=29.7 APG=8.6 RPG=7.3 BPG=1.0 SPG=1.6 TPG=3.4 Dwyane Wade 08-09... PPG=30.2 APG=7.5 RPG=5.0 BPG=1.3 SPG=2.2 TPG=3.4 We could debate this for years, so I will just tell you why I think Dwyane Wade has a shot to be "The Man" on the Miami Heat. What does he have that Lebron does not? 1. He has a versatile post game. 2. He has a polished mid-range game. 3. He has done it before. Experience should never be underestimated. If the Heat win a ring, I feel that Wade will take them there, partly because he has done it before. No one has dominated the league to get a ring more so, since Jordan. What Wade did in 2006 was unreal, and should never be taken for granted. His footwork, to me, makes him the more elite option. His ability to be posted, and his second to none footwork (Maybe Kobe), will make him a killer until he is in his late thirties. I feel like the transition of aging will be much kinder to Wade, who relies on his athleticism far less that James. Lebron will always have great vision, and I will go on record in saying that I think the Heat should put him at PG. I think it would benefit his game to go for more of a "Magic" type of role with the Heat. Forsooth, I am out of this thread, because I like to avoid the Bwon-Bwon fanboys, who seem to have jumped off Stacy's jock and found a new sniffing ground. As for Chris Bosh... “I heard what Chris Bosh said, and that’s strong words coming from the RuPaul of big men,” O’Neal said. “I’m going to do the same thing (in their next meeting) I did before - make him quit. Make ‘em quit and complain. It’s what I do.” Well, Chris Bosh is a p***y. Pat Riley is an *******, and Daryl Morey is a dick. p*****s don't like dicks, because p*****s get ****ed by dicks. But dicks also **** assholes: assholes that just want to **** on everything. p*****s may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can **** an ******* is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they **** too much or **** when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a p***y to show them that. But sometimes, p*****s can be so full of **** that they become assholes themselves... because p*****s are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us **** this *******, we're going to have our dicks and p*****s all covered in ****!
Finally a guy with some sense on here. Doesn't matter what happens off the court it's whats on the court that counts.
Nobody has to apologize for being a passionate fan, daywalker02. Especially not to me. If there's one thing people may want to take notice of with the developments surrounding the Miami Heat, in my opinion, is how the dynamic for winning may be irrevocably changed. Especially if the Heat are consistently challenging for titles for the next four or five seasons. Charles Barkley said that he felt that LeBron James made a mistake in not trying to win where he was, and try to make lesser players "better", and face and beat the best competition on the road to an NBA title. The Chuckster's ego has always been as large as his waistline. It's what helped him be a great player. And also what kept him from being a champion. LeBron (and for that matter, Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh) have shown a professional maturity beyond their years. A commendable maturity, to me. Those three haven't chosen the path of least resistance to a title. Far from it. You win games on the court. Not in the press or on the internet. They're going to have to earn any title they manage to win. Nobody's going to lay down for them. They've upped the ante for themselves; they haven't made it easier. There are already rumblings of Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony joining Amar'e Stoudemire in New York after the lockout (it's coming—I hope not, but it is) and forming their own "big three". Good players know they need good teammates in order to win. There's less need for individual celebrity and accolade with the saturation of media coverage today—anybody spending more than two minutes in front of a microphone or a camera is a star these days. And don't get me started on how the internet has turned into one humongous tabloid for professional athletes, daywalker02. Nobody that wants to be famous has to win anything anymore. They just have to be visible. That's David Stern's legacy and curse. He marketed the "stars" so well that somewhere the idea of TEAMS winning championships got lost. Well, actually, it got lost when the media started chasing Michael Jordan around the country. Do you remember that Lakers/Celtics rivalry of the 1980s, daywalker02? How those battles were about the TEAMS as much as it was about Magic Johnson and Larry Bird? About how Greg Kite matched up with Kurt Rambis? About how who was the better bench cheerleader between M.L. Carr and Jamaal Wilkes (which isn't fair—Wilkes was a very good player in his day)? Did we become so enamored with Michael Jordan that we forgot what made us all love this game? That 5 guys were going against 5 other guys, and that how one five played against another five determined who won and who lost? Did we really ever let ourselves believe that it's about ONE player on the team, and not EVERY player? Do yo know how many hall-of-fame players are sitting at home without rings today? Every one of them would sacrifice some of their own individual accomplishments to win those rings. And to have a good chance at winning those rings every season, without having to waste the best seasons of their careers having to do it, daywalker02. The dynamic of winning hasn't changed, to me, daywalker02. It's just coming back around. The Boston Celtics started it in 2008. The Heat have continued it now. As much as it might not seem so now, this may be one of the better things to happen to the league in recent years. Putting good teams on the floor will be more important than player PR and cap-space maneuvers that leave franchises looking like idiots. The PLAYERS, like they always have, will determine who wins and who loses. The focus will be on them again. ALL of them. Not just the ones with the puppet commercials or the cell phone advertisements. The more things change, daywalker02, the more they stay the same.....
t_mac1 you've been too many wrong too many times before (mostly about your boy stacy) you need to quit making assumptions/predictions. you're making a fool of yourself.
Wade won't concede anything to LeChoke. It's his team, his city, and he's already got a championship.
Between you and me, t_mac1... ...I don't think you were all that wrong to defend Tracy McGrady while he was here. It's not a popular job, and it sure as hell didn't pay anything. I know. I did it myself. But McGrady wasn't solely why the Rockets weren't able to do any real damage in the postseason. He'll get all the blame, though. So don't feel bad. At least you've got some company. My reputation around here shouldn't be as good as yours......
I gotta agree. People want to change the subject about whether Bryant or James is better. James is better than Wade on the court, more dominant on the court, and more famous off the court. It's nice to poke fun and all, but James is the new #1 guy in Miami, Wade's popularity and championship pedigree be damned.
where am i assuming? lebron has been won the MVP the last 2 years by landslide margins. he IS the best player in the L. again, lebron may defer to wade off the court b/c wade has a longer history with the team. it would be the same as lebron james deferring to yao ming if he came to houston b/c yao has been the face of the franchise for so long. but once they step on the court, lebron will do his thing. and when he does his thing, he's not a 2nd fiddle to anybody. and wade knows and HAS ADMITTED this.
