Phyllis Mangina: "They're not more skilled than our players are..."

I go to an SEC school and recently went to my first D1 Women's game. There's nothing like being in an arena that holds 20,000 and less than 2,000 people being in attendance. Anyways, because it was so empty, my buddy and I walked down and sat on the front row at half court. I was shocked at how bad the girls were. The level of play was absolutely atrocious and I kept thinking to myself that a few of the intramural teams could dominate these chicks. Hell, I think a good high school team could dominate them.

 

Isn't Phyllis Mangina the beeeyotch who pissed off Fatty Fat b*stard over the weekend?

 

I hate it when people argue that most d1 women basketball could beat your avg athlete. This simply isnt true!! I dont watch the comets, I could care less about them. However a year ago me and some friends were at the wellness center in houston (59 and fondren) me and my 2 friends are just messing around and these 3 huge women walk in wanting to play with us. We thought it was a joke, but they were so cocky. Talking trash to us, basically begging us to play. We agree to play one game. The three of us are decent at basketball. two of us had played high school ball and a third guy played d3 basketball for a couple years. I would say we are avg in skill with my friend that played d3 a little above. we beat these women 3 games in a row. The last one being a blow out. They were cussing us out fouling just horrible opponets. At the time I knew they were the best girls I had ever played with but didnt think they were anything special. After they left. The trainer that was asigned to them(yes he was there water boy/ b****) came up to us and said they played for the comets. One of them I remember was some player by the last name of Snow. the other 2 were starters at the time as well, but cant remember their names. My point for this story is that those women be it professional or not would struggle at a d3 lvl. It pisses me off when people talk about how good they are cause they arnt that good. I honestly feel any good high school team or a d3 team could beat teams in the WNBA. This is why i will never respect the WNBA. just full of a bunch of cocky women who feel like they are as good as the men and deserve respect.....

 

This is so ridiculous. Anytime anyone brings up women's athletics in any form or fashion, everyone wants to run it down because it's not as good as the men's version. Why can't you enjoy it for its own entertainment value? I watch women's basketball and enjoy it. I don't worry about whether a lower-level men's team is as good or whether a rec-league all-star team could beat them. When I go out and watch the Lamar women's team, I only care about how well they compete with other Southland women's team (and beyond that other D-1 women's teams).

The same standards aren't applied to men's athletics. No one will choose not to watch a D-1 basketball game because they couldn't compete with an NBDL team.

 

i dont watch it because i honestly cant enjoy a game that i feel is played at such a low lvl most regular athletes could compete at

 

im sorry let me clear that up....I really dont have much of an issue with women sports. I think its good to have women sports. What bothers me however is when people argue about how they could beat a lot of mens teams. I personally cant watch a womens basketball game and enjoy it. They play is much slower, the athletic ability is sporadic at best and it just isnt entertaining. I feel this is why no professional women sports ever excel. It is just hard for me to sit down and watch a game that I know most general athletes can compete at. Its just not entertaining. Most people watch sports because they see things that are actually impressive. In the WNBA if a women dunks a ball the 200 fans go crazy. Tell me why I am sopposed to be impressed and have fun watching that. Ive been able to dunk a ball since high school.

 

Damn, talk about a fastball over the middle.

I've said it before, if the rim in women's basketball were lowered to 8 1/2 feet, attendance and fan interest would skyrocket...

 

i think the point is for most of america its not entertaining...

 

Then don't bash it. Just let it be. I don't see how anyone would willing watch Golf live or on television. I love motorcycle racing but don't enjoy car racing at all. I really, really don't understand the love for horse racing. But if you like any of these sports, that's fine.

It's one thing to say that you choose other entertainment choices. It's a lot different thing to say that you disrespect the WNBA because they couldn't compete with decent male basketball players.

 

no i disrespect the WNBA because i think even if you were a high school scrub on a 5a team(like i was) you can play better then PROFESSIONAL women basketball players.

 

That's like me saying that because I won a few fight night boxing matches in college and I could knock out PROFESSIONAL flyweight boxers, that I disrespect flyweight boxing.

 

i dont think i understand the comparison....the only thing i have tryed to relay during this whole conversation is that the WNBA is not a high lvl of basketball. Most people would agree with me on this. As far as you winning a couple fight night? boxing matches....congrats i think, but i dont know what u were getting at.

 

I'm sorry, and I'm sure this has been mentioned countless times before ... but is her name really "Mangina"?

That's terrible.

 

He's saying that even though a mediocre HW boxer would probably beat Jorge Arce up due to sheer size,(Jorge Arce is the 114 lb champion, and one of the most entertainngng fighters around) that that doesn't mean everybody says "Jorge sucks, he's not worht watching, screw the lighter weight classes"

Though I don't know if that's a great comparison; Manny Pacquiao would kick the **** out of anybody on this BBS, regardless of weight, of this I am certain. I don't think any one of us could take a punch from him and not be in serious pain or most likely unconscious.

When I was in Thailand I was at Fairtex Camp, I saw Yodsaenklai Fairtex (WBC & Thailand Muay Thai champ at 154, one of the great Thai fighters of this era) sparring (boxing only) with larger European and American amateurs/recreational fighters that I knew who outweighed him by as many as 60 pounds. He demolished them. They couldn't hit him, and he pounded them to the body. Some of them were total recreational types with little experience, but some were amateur or low level pros at home, but he demolished them all the same, and we all estimated he was going at about 60-75% power/speed. They asked me if I wanted to try a round, and I said NO freaking way, he would have left me a puddle. The gap between a world class pro fighter and everyone else is REALLY wide.

 

I'll try to spell it out for you. I've never boxed professionally or even seriously as an amateur. The most I've done was go to these fight nights in college where we'd draw names and go three rounds or until someone gave up. But I outweigh a flyweight boxer by 90 pounds and I'm a lot stronger. I would knock out most professional flyweight boxers. Their only chance would be to keep moving and hope to make it to the end of the match. The flyweight boxers can't compete with heavyweights or even middleweights. And if all you are looking for is really hard hits, you wouldn't like to watch a flyweight match. But if you watch flyweight boxing and don't try to think of how they'd do in a heavyweight or middleweight match, it can be pretty entertaining. Flyweight boxing isn't bad boxing just because of the physical limitations of the boxers.

 

That's pretty interesting seeing as the Comets fairly regularly scrimmage against guys who played d2/d3 level ball in college. As I recall the article from several years ago, the guys mostly are associated with/work for the Rockets and Comets organizations, and according to them, the Comets held their own. I'd pull the link, but I don't care that much.

 

This is exactly what I'm saying.

That's why I specifically mentioned flyweights. Above about featherweight, the strength gap really starts to narrow. But the very light weight-classes are to boxing what the WNBA and women's college basketball are to basketball in general.

 

Women's b-ball is the one pro sport I think I could hop into and be competitive right off the bat.

 

if your trying to cast doubt on my story..I really could care less. Its the honest to God truth. Many professional athletes work out at the wellness center. I myself have played with ndi ebi and a few of the texans... This wasnt a full team. We played half court 3 on 3. Anywas, ill say again what my only point im tryin to relay is.....these players get a lot of hype because they are "professional" but they arnt that good. Compare them to any avg basketball player who plays reguarly and they are not that good. That is why they dont have that much of a following and that is why i dont watch them. They just dont do anything impressive.

 

The people who work for organizations that have a financial stake in how the Comets are perceived pumped them up in public? That must mean they are really good.