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Phoenix Suns' Pick Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Aruba77, Jan 2, 2025.

  1. OremLK

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    Devin Booker ain't no superstar. He didn't even make the all-star game this season. At best he's a top 15 player, but maybe not even that anymore.
     
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    85% of his shots are jumpers with 55% of those being assisted.
     
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  3. Corrosion

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    Is Booker better than Green this season?

    If you think he is better, is he better enough to justify paying him $20-$25m more per year and giving up multiple young players for?

    You aren't getting Booker for the PHX picks and trash. They are going to want our young players. That's a no from me.


    You can't play them together and I'm not giving them Green in exchange.
     
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  4. BigMaloe

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    Booker just feels like a losing player to me. Only time he was successful and actually shot really well was when CP3 was there. Even now hes being carried by a 35 yo Durant and they suck. Hes never lead his team to a great record or a deep run.
     
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    I think by this time next year, Jalen Green is the superior player to Devin Booker.
     
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    Huh? At best he’s a top 15 player but not a star? What? Booker would instantly be the best player on the Rockets by a wide margin. Jesus.
     
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  7. amaru

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    Superstar my ass. It’s questionable if he’s even been a star this year. That will only get worse with age. Booker has always been overrated.
     
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  8. amaru

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    Booker is definitely a losing player. Never made his team competitive on his own.
     
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    He's not a superstar. In case you weren't aware, there's long been a colloquial distinction among NBA fans between "star" and "superstar". The definition is pretty nebulous, but if you're not at least close to being a top 5 player in the NBA--so guys like Jokic, Giannis, etc--you're almost certainly not going to be thought of a "superstar". It may seem like semantics, but it's not really, because the kind of player usually thought of as a superstar is approximately 2-3x as valuable as Booker in terms of their impact on winning.

    Devin Booker is probably still be good enough to be called a "star" player, no prefix, but even that's at risk IMO since he didn't make the all-star game this season. (Maybe he will bounce back.)
     
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  10. Aruba77

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    The Suns are just 2.5 games back for the 9th draft pick spot. If the Suns finish at #9 (best case scenario) we have a 20% chance at a top 4 pick. If they finish 10th, our odds go down by almost half to 11%. Basically it comes down to San Antonio, Atlanta and Portland. Fox may still be able to carry SA to a few wins. Atlanta has no incentive to tank since SA has their pick. And Billups is fighting for his job in Portland and they are on a winning streak. It’s gonna be a very interesting finish to the season.
     
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    at some point like now it becomes in the suns best interest to lose games

    think about that
     
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  12. Good Times

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    Devin replacing Green would make the Rockets better if this was all that was traded. But Devin would cost the Rockets at least Green, Tari, Cam and fillers to make the numbers work. And it’s unlikely the Rockets could sign both FVV or Jabari with Devin’s super max. Could Devin make up a loss of Green, FVV, Tari, Cam and draft picks?

    It’s a lot to give up for a team that’s going to win 50-55 games this year and is still growing. Devin would have to become the Rockets best player and right now he’s the Sun’s 2nd best player and they aren’t winning. On paper KD, Beal and Richards are a much better group over Sengun, Amen and Jabari.
     
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    He’s like 27 years old and at the prime of his career. You Don’t trade Jalen for him. You trade picks and trash (Brooks, Sheppard, Smith). Lineup:
    FVV, Booker, Green, Thompson, Sengun. Eason, Adams, Holiday, Jock, Cam bench.
     
  14. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    I hate this proposed lineup so much. Way too small.
     
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    Shockingly I agree with you!!! I didn’t want to say what I was really feeling because everyone would freak out. I say trade FVV and Brooks/Jabrari as the main pieces with a pick to get Booker. Better lineup and not small ball: Booker, Green, Thompson, FA/Trade/Draft(tall power forward), Sengun. That lineup wins big time. Worst case we draft a PF and keep Jabrari one more season as he’s at least tall.
     
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    It's not in their best interests to lose games until 2031.
    It is probably in their best interests to rebuild an asset base by sitting their 2 best players (Durant and Booker). They cannot afford an injury to those guys - they pretty much have to trade them in the off-season to start a rebuild.
    Then they need to attempt to salvage value out of the rest of the roster. Just face the fact that you're a lottery team for 3 years without a pick and scrape together young guys and trash picks to try and swing for a star eventually.

    Maybe keeping Booker is in their best interests too - but they aren't going anywhere with him.
     
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  17. gmoney411

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    No way it costs all of that for Booker when we have the Suns picks. Green/Cam/picks/filler is the max offer I could imagine and it might even be something like Dillon/Cam/picks filler.
     
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  18. astrosrule

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    This isn't quite true, while they don't own their picks outright, next year for example is a swap with the wizards. I can't imagine a way for the wizards to not be terrible so the suns could, if they wanted to, basically guarantee a top 5 pick next year for themselves. That said, their situation is brutal. Durant is a shell of what he used to, and even booker has regressed this season.
     
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    Specially if there is a wink-wink agreement about KD or Booker with Stone
     
  20. MystikArkitect

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    It's not crazy to say Jalen has been a more productive NBA player than Booker this year.
     
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