[Philly Inquirer] Trade rumors swirling around 76ers' Iguodala(McGrady)

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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20100207_Inside_the_Sixers___Sense_and_insensibility.html

Inside the Sixers: Sense and insensibility

POSTED: February 7, 2010
By Kate Fagan
Inquirer Staff Writer

HOUSTON - The phrase du jour is basketball sense.

Need to see it used in a sentence?


General manager Ed Stefanski is insisting that any move the team makes must make "basketball sense." In the meantime the team is just plugging holes.

The 76ers will trade Andre Iguodala only if it makes "basketball sense."

As the NBA's Feb. 18 trading deadline approaches, this has become the Sixers' company line, tossed over all rumored trade scenarios: Iguodala for Tracy McGrady's expiring contract? Iguodala for Amar'e Stoudemire's possibly expiring contract?

Nah, those deals make financial sense. Those don't make on-the-court, hard-core, basketball sense.

The phrase is quite clever, really, loaded with all kinds of twists and turns, meaning nothing while pretending to mean something.

On Feb. 18, when Sixers general manager Ed Stefanski holds his conference call explaining a trade or the lack of one, what couldn't be shoved under the umbrella of "basketball sense"?

If the Sixers make a trade for a player, they'll say it made basketball sense; if they make a trade for an expiring contract, they'll say it made basketball sense going forward; if they sit tight, they'll say nothing made enough basketball sense to pull the trigger.

The phrase is as versatile as Iguodala's game.

And, of course, the phrase is ironic: How many Sixers fans still trust the basketball sense of the men charged with deciding what makes basketball sense?

Not many.

And why should they?

Most Sixers fans are frustrated that they've been forced into a situation where rooting against victories seems not just rational but necessary. They've been told for three years there's a plan - a young, talented nucleus around which the team is building - only to witness a succession of moves that appear contrary to this plan. And now we've reached the point where the franchise has made it clear anyone on the roster could be traded.

Some plan.

The Sixers are 19-31, bad enough to probably miss the playoffs, but not bad enough for a franchise-changing draft pick.

Those fans who care enough - there are a few thousand - mostly hold one of two opinions: either the fault lies with coach Eddie Jordan, who's mismanaged a capable roster, or the roster is poorly assembled, just a random collection of decent spare parts.

In either case, Stefanski is left holding the deflated basketball. If the coach is the issue, Stefanski hired him. If the roster is the problem, he assembled it.

This isn't a mid-major college basketball program offering an eight-year leash: four years waiting for the previous coach's recruits to graduate and four more to recruit your own.

Either you've made the right moves and you start winning, or you haven't and you start losing.

It's not that complicated.

But what seems to be happening - highlighted by this new phrase, basketball sense - is a stubbornness that's becoming detrimental to any progress.

The Sixers had a plan. They tried to execute the plan. The plan is failing.

This season is playing like a mad scramble to plug holes: It might have begun with hiring Jordan and his gimmicky offense in May; it continued with the signing of Allen Iverson in November; and now it has come to sitting rookie Jrue Holiday for most second halves.

So what does make basketball sense?

Trading Iguodala makes sense. You think Iguodala is worried about leaving the Sixers? He's probably praying to the basketball gods each night that Stefanski trades him to Phoenix or Houston.

Let him go, collect the cap space along with one good up-and-comer (for example, Houston's Chase Budinger), and start over. Stefanski has the basketball sense to design a new plan, but not if he's unwilling to admit the previous one's failure.

There's no sense of purpose on the Sixers right now. They drift from city to city, winning a few, losing a few, collecting a paycheck. Do these players sense they're the foundation for something greater?

Not a chance.

And neither does the fan base.

 

Get er done Stefanski!

I think the Rockets would have a hard time saying no to a trade

TMac and Chase

for

Iggy, Kapono and filler (Brezec)


Gets the Rockets under the Threshold and lands Iggy. Philly gets cap space and an Up & Comer

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20100207_Inside_the_Sixers___Sense_and_insensibility.html

 

i'll take that...Kapono will be our 3pt. specialist to replace Bud...adding Speights would be great..we could send them also Andersen or Cook.

 

um Kapano has a player option for next year...

 

Re: SF76 Deadline Thread

Postby mo4allstar on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:07 am
latest post by w&g

"LOL .. Never refer to me, and being definitive about a trade in the same sentence ever again !! I just never know for sure if something is ever going to actually happen. I was probably more posiitive we would be landing Shaq last trade deadline than of any of them ..and Phoenix backed off at the last second.

Of course, you never know the dynamics that the Sixers are dealing with, and what is happening with other teams ... but, just tonight I've gotten some rumblings from people that are pretty connected in Philly, and people that are close with Iguodala's people ..and he's getting some impressions that something could be happening pretty soon.

He's actually been talking pretty openly about the possiblities of coming here, and he's very hopeful that it can get done and he can become a Cavalier.

We shall see .. this one might not go til the deadline. It will either ultimately fly or fail during the break I think.

I don't know what the trade would ultimately entail, or how it would shake out. I'm sure multitudes of options are being discussed. I'm just going on a gut feel, and things I heard in the grapevine this evening."

 

Sixers are in a long-term mess. They need to accumilate money and buy picks, trade unfair contracts and don't sign free agents off the market. They need to focus on finding players who are young and keep losing to become a winner at worst. The patience card was played to it's fans and they loss hope.

 

Isn't he the 76ers insider?

I kind of want Iggy here now. As long as Landry and Lowry stay. Everyone else is up for grabs IMO. Otherwise, no deal for me.

 

No a cavs insider.

 

Obviously McGrady don't sound like the plan to Philly, it sounds more like giving to recieve they are more interested in. They just keep Dalembert and we keep McGrady. If there is players outside of Dalember Rockets may hold interest in would be Iggy/Young for sure, than Speights, than Williams Maybe.

 

Coach also said they lack bodies they had 6 bigs and 4 smalls. Evidently any trade by his statement means we'll end up with more players.

 

Id probably give up Budinger for the Iggy deal.

 

Cavaliers are Closing on a Deal for Iguodala.

Postby drewd on Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:08 pm
So I've heard from some people in both organizations, That the Cavs are closing on a deal were they are willing to deal one of two JJ hickson or Danny Green with Zydrunas Ilgauskas, whos' contract is 75% paid for which sweetens the deal. Danny Ferry (Cavaliers GM) would have to S&T Wally Szczerbiak and also dish off a first round pick. I've heard they would be taking Dalembert in the deal with Iguodala, unfortunately not Brand. The fine details of the deal will be finalized around the 3 days off during the allstar break.

 

nope.

 

Iggy for Amare looks like it happening...

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/12957/suns-take-up-close-look-at-iguodala

 

Let em, the thing about this though. it's impossible to do in a single scenario it takes 2 scenarios to make it possible. S&T's can only be 1for1 swaps.

I came up with a pretty fair scenario. Send Tracy to Philly and take back nothing else, but Phillys top ten pick goes to Houston and expiring contracts.

It don't matter how they do it 3 or 4 teams, all we need is the top ten pick, let them figure out the pieces.

 

So Caron Butler's next on the list, right?

Might as well just let Tracy McGrady's contract expire.

Morey...whatever you do...do NOT do the "12:01 AM jersey-with-your-name-on-it" thing. You are 0 for 2 with that strategy. Looks like we'll just have to wade for the offseason

 

oh, Nash said something...
Yeah~

 

Here's Johnny hosting the game show, 'Who do you trust?'

So, with Iggy gone to Suns no Cavs but no, don't ignore Mavs, does that make Butler more likely to Rox? Or still Iggy to Toy Shop? Or...whom? Whom, I say,
whom do you trust?

 

Im sure the guy would love to finish the season anywhere, as long as he doesn't get the cameo role.