[Philly Inquirer] Trade rumors swirling around 76ers' Iguodala(McGrady)

So what happen's if we trade tmac to philly and they buy him out.

 

and that is our problem how? he's not going to come back even another team buys him out. it's over.

 

Then he's a free agent. Who cares? Either he is not the Rockets problem.

 

It is if he go's to LA.

 

No he's not. I doubt LA would even want him.

 

Brooks/Lowry
Iguodala/Battier
T-mac/Ariza
Scola/Landry
Dalembert/Hayes

 

TMac is NEVER playing in a Rockets uniform again, unless we switch coach and GM, Tmac is not coming back.

 

[rquoter]The Sixers have won two games in a row, but their record is still just 17-31 overall. The NBA trade deadline is now little more than two weeks away which usually throws conversations between teams into overdrive.

Ed Stefanski has been on record saying there are no untouchables on the roster and that a team like the Sixers, who have underachieved, need to listen to all possible offers.

One such offer is coming out of Phoenix. The Suns and Amar'e Stoudemire’s camp have been trying to nail down a contract extension but to no avail. Like many of the upper echelon players in the NBA, Stoudemire would like to sign a max-salary contract. These financial times coupled with a player who is 27 years old and injuries prominent on his impressive playing résumé suggest that is unlikely.

That brings us to the trade possibility of the Sixers sending Andre Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire. At first glance, this deal would appear unappealing to Phoenix only because they have said they would not like to take back any long-term deals. Iguodala has four years remaining on his contract and he currently makes more than $12 million. Dalembert stands to make more than that number next season, the final year of his deal.

However, an NBA source told CSNPhilly.com that “Phoenix desperately wants Andre. They are pushing this, that I know for a fact.”

That same source reminded that in 2004 the Suns really wanted to take Iguodala with the seventh pick in the draft but because the Suns didn’t believe that Iguodala would still be on the board at seven, they traded their pick to Chicago. If you go back and look at how the 2004 draft played out, you will see that Phoenix selected Luol Deng and then traded his rights to the Bulls.

Iguodala was in fact still on the board at that time, but the pick had already been moved. The Sixers selected Iguodala two selections later at No. 9.

What adds a little twist to the Stoudemire stakes that does not exist, say with a possible Tracy McGrady deal, is that Stoudemire does not have an expiring contract. His deal could end this season – but he is the one who will make that decision as he holds a player option on whether to accept or decline $17.7 million for next season.

It seems like a lot of money to turn down, but even with his injuries Stoudemire would appear to attract suitors who would be willing to invest in him long-term on the free-agent market.

Stoudemire this season is averaging 21 points and 8.5 rebounds. He also shoots 55 percent from the floor. The Suns would have to add a player or two to get within 25 percent of the exchanged salaries, but that usually is the biggest time consumer when an NBA deal is in the works.

The question for Stefanski will be this: If Stoudemire does not opt out of his deal and you pay him $17.7 million next season, are you more competitive thAn what you are right now? The question must be asked because Stefanski has no maneuverability with the roster this offseason only because the Sixers are over the cap for next year. Stefanski would still be over the limit if Stoudemire decided to stay, which given the Sixers’ record is unlikely but you have to consider the possibility.[/rquoter]

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I'm going to predict this now:


Iggy, Dalembert, Williams

for

TMac, Lowry

No team in the NBA can offer that much in expiring contracts while giving a team a very good inexpensive player for another year. Trading for Amare and Barbosa would be risky for Philly as they could be stuck with very expensive contracts over the next two to three years.

 

Josh howard and dampier trumps that deal, sorry

 

I absolutely disagree.

Josh Howard has become almost as injury prone as TMac and he will be on the wrong side of 30 in April. He is a complete head case and has very diminishing skills. His shooting percentage is less than 40% and his defense has not been much for a couple of years.

Eric Dampier is nothing but an expiring contract.

TMac is an expiring contract and Lowry is the only young trade asset among these four. Plus the 76ers would be able to unload the long contract of Lou Williams which they could not do with Dallas because Damp and Josh do not make enough.

In short Philly could unload almost 30 million in salary while retaining one very good young asset with Lowry. Or they could unload 24 million with no young assets.

 

Josh howard can play and you know it and he is a expiring and dampier can play and is expiring also. Cuban can close a deal and resing guys or throw in guys with draft picks and he doesn't care. Not only that, they could keep both and now they're expring again and can be used as trade bait again. If you were a gm and both offers were on the table, the dallas deal looks better big time

 

I am not exaggerating about Josh. I live in Dallas and I tell you people hate him and would love to be rid of him. HE IS A HEAD CASE and he is often injured. He has only played about half the games this season and only played about 50 last season.

Lowry is a no brainer IMO between the two. He allows Houston to offer more salary savings to Philly over the course of the next 4 years by almost 5 mil a season. Lowry is seldom hurt and he is still very very young. Lowry could still be a valuable part of that team in 5 years (his prime years). Josh will be out of the league by then.

Josh makes 10 million a year now. He is not going to want to drop below the MLE. Do you think the 76ers would pay the MLE for 12 points a game, 39% shooting percentage and 50 games a year wrapt up in a Head Case? Josh Howard would be nothing but an expiring contract to Philly.

EDIT:
I just want to add that no way do I believe Philly wants to resign two players that are both over 30 and will both very likely want a deal that is at least close to the MLE for multiple years. If they were willing to do that Lou Williams would not be mentioned in Trade rumors in the media. Philly is trying to dump salary and sign young inexpensive salaries for players with potential that can grow with their young core.

 

1.someone start a petition thread to Morey for us to obtain Iggy. It should be a sticky. I will endorse it along with everyone else. If Morey sees that all of us want iggy he might be swayed to trade for him knowing that the hardcore fanbase of clutchfans wants him.

2.it will be interesting on here if iggy plays great saturday in houston but we dont trade for him

 

I've watched alot of mavs games over the years on league pass and he's having a poor year no doubt, but he killed the spurs in the playoffs last year, has been a all star in this league and has a expiring contract if they want in the form of a team option. There isn't any deal the rockets can offer better than howard and dampier without including scola or landry. Lowry is a nice player and he's young, but he's also up for a contract and has a small salary. Philly can take howard and dampier and deal them again for smaller deals. Once you get tracy, its petty much a wrap. Howard has 1/2 season of proving to go around and they can either keep him or let him go. They can also let him just keep playing and put up numbers and trade him next season. Hell, dallas would probably take kapono off their hands also if they asked and thats something the rockets won't do.

 

Did you forget the ?

 

Dallas doesn't have 2010 and 2011 1st round draft picks for trade.

The 2010 1st round draft pick was traded to Jersey. 2011 1st round draft pick can't be traded due to league rules, preventing trades of 1st round draft picks in consecutive years.

They may be able to trade a late 2nd round draft pick.
They traded their 2010 2nd round draft pick to Indiana, but they can defer it to 2011. They can also get a 2nd round draft pick from OKC, this season, if it's not in the top 45 picks.

 

Philly could not trade Kapono, Dalembert, Iggy to Dallas with out taking back some substantial contracts as well such as Jason Terry. Also with the trade deadline by Feb 18 if Philly trades for damp and Josh they are just as stuck with them as they are would be with TMac.

Houston can offer more cap relief than Dallas... period.

We can disagree but no way Dallas can offer the better deal.

 

So i guess iggy,sam,and kapono for gooden,damp,and howard wouldn't provide the best cap relief for philly? We're talking about clearing 30m of contracts and keeping some of your young players.

 

Not only that, dallas has shown they know how to close a big deal and thats something the rockets haven't shown they can do.