[Philly Inquirer] Trade rumors swirling around 76ers' Iguodala(McGrady)

Could it be that the reason the Rox aren't considered in the top offers for Iguodala yet is because Morey hasn't offered up McGrady's contract and has rebuffed any trade offers from Philly for McGrady's contract?

Could it be that Morey has pieced together some kind of offer like Battier, Cook, Jermaine, and Dorsey for Iggy just to let Philly know we have interest and see how much Philly would bite on it?

Could it be that Morey is using Washington as leverage with Philly since Caron is apparently available as well and he could conceivably piece together a deal with the Wizards around McGrady's contract?

Could Morey be planning to play both teams against one another down at the trade deadline? Both teams in the East, both need to rebuild. Which one blinks first and gives up the most talent wins the expirings and a young talent from us???????

 

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You're kidding right? I'm sorry, but that's gotta be one of the dumbest posts i've ever seen... no offense.



1) Andre not being a 30pt scorer is irrelevant because he does MANY OTHER things exceptionally well (Defense, Rebound, Assists, Stls). He's averaging 17ppg, 6asts/g this year which means he's responsible for AT LEAST 29ppg.

2) What good is a player (Kevin Martin) who can drop 30, 40, 50 points when he's going to miss anywhere from 25-35 games/year? (remind you of someone else with that kind of scoring potential???) What good is a player who puts up those kinds of offensive numbers and allow the same on the other end??
Why dont you also add in your arguments about how well Martin's doing since his return from the injury? I wouldnt exactly call 13ppg on 27% shooting stellar. I'd rather take my chances with Dorsey taking jump shots.

3) we'd bring in IGGY to play SG and NOT SF. With this comment you're arguing that players like C. Butler, Paul Peirce and Vince Carter are too UNDERSIZED to play SF. While all of them are listed 6'6 at 6'7 and play the SF at times.

4) When you speak of "baby finger injuries" of t-mac...I wouldnt exactly call "Surgery required" injuries (shoulder surgery, and micro-fracture surgery)"baby finger stuff".


I'm not the biggest IGGY fan, but his production is leaps and bounds better than what we're getting from a 22mil player rotting in Chicago.

 

If Morey doesn't take Dalembert, then the Sizers will go to Dallas, Portland or Phoenix. I don't see the 76ers going for Amare, if that's the bait. Why trade Iggy for Amare to get cap relief, only to sign Amare to a max extension?

 

So, here's another 3 way trade.

McGrady, Cook, Lowry, Jermaine to Philly.

Dalembert, Landry, our first rounder, cash to Phoenix.

Iguodala, Amare, Speights, Philly's 2nd rounder to Houston.


Brooks/Conroy
Iggy/Chase
Ariza/Battier
Stoudemire/Speights/Andersen
Scola/Hayes/Dorsey


So, I'm thinking more and more about Amare. He doesn't want to come to Houston........fine. We rent him for our playoff run. After the season, we try to negotiate a contract with him. Let's say he refuses to re-sign a reasonable contract and he finds some team willing to pay him max. We can then offer up a sign and trade, take back some 2010 expirings to work with at the trade deadline...or we can let him walk and save the money....or we may be able to actually turn the S&T into a decent young talent.........or we may refuse to do a S&T and offer Amare a deal under the max but give him the extra year so it equals or exceeds what he would get somewhere else. We could then trade him at a later date if we chose to. All sorts of options.

Would Phoenix take Dalembert, Landry, cash, and a pick for Amare??? Would they want to exchange Battier for Barbosa to make the deal?? What better offers are they going to get for Amare that would beat Dalembert and Landry?

 

They dont want Amare they well let him walk.

 

Good one there. :grin:

 

I love this deal!! Don't know how realistic it would be with the new cap coming into effect in 2011 (A LOT OF MONEY IN Iggy STAT and Yao). But from the team perspective I absolutely LOVE this deal! Now that would be GREAT!!

 

That sounds pretty good to me...but why would PHX take on Dalembert for another year? Sure...it would give them Landry who i think could thrive with a PG like NASH and it would give them an inside defensive presence. But i really dont think they would want any part of Dalembert's contract.

 

We can always sign Amare to a shoe deal.

 

i hope we can pull out a deal to get iggy and young or dalembert, would be awesome if we could get all 3, but with the way philly plays, i thing they would be willing to have jt, mcgrady, dorsey and cook to get all 3.

 

Depends on what else they could get for Amare. Dally is a great defensive paint presence. Dally/Landry/Lopez/Frye is a very decent playoff big man rotation. Dally expires next season so they could possibly flip him for something else. I just don't know what else is out there for Amare. Hearing a lot of rumors but most of them sound like smoke and mirrors since Amare doesn't seem to be willing to commit to any team. It seems like he is going to be nothing more than a glorified expiring/short term rental for somebody. IF that is the case..........then most teams aren't going to offer much to get him without a commitment from him. They will want to send out salary. So, PHX either keeps him and watches him walk, or they take the risk they can get back some talent in a S&T, or they accept whatever they can get for him. I'm just wondering if Dally/Landry/a pick/cash would be enough to get it done.

 

I don't know what the "infinitely better offer" would be from Phoenix. Why would Amar'e want to re-sign there?

Dallas, yes, I can see Cuban spending the money. Dalembert's contract would be up in a year anyway, about the time that Dirk, maybe, and Terry, probably, and Kidd, hell yes, start to slide talent-wise. They really do have a small window.

I'd be frustrated if Les goes cheap on us, but that's to be seen. Morey and other sources keep saying Houston, Cleveland, and Dallas are the teams that can spend. But will they? More important, will Les?

Thing is, in trading for Iggy and Dalembert, we solve so many problems for this season. But is there a worry of spending so much on a backup when Yao returns?

Or have we targeted another team or teams? Better to get a 4/5 type player like Bosh or Stoudemire or even (for the future) Anthony Randolph (probably pipe dreams, sure, but....)

Or aim for Washington since they can put an expiring in there so we can re-sign some of our own free agents?

 

technically we won't have the mle because we would be under the cap, but not by a wide margin. I haven't checked the math in a bit, but I believe after resigning our fa's we would have approximately mid-level money.

 

IF...........we can pull Speights with Iggy/Dally, then we are winning big time. Dally is an expiring contract next season. We will be stuck with the tax, unless we decide to let Scola walk.......which may be possible. But we are set with Yao's backups next season and going forward with Speights. He is a big time player. Even if we don't flip Dally, it's still a good long term deal. But if Les is going to be willing to pay the lux tax next season, then Dally becomes a big time asset for facilitating trades.

 

I think it would.Landry is Amare lite and sammy make them better at D.

 

Teams under the cap have the option of using the MLE or the capspace for a season, but not both. We could use the MLE.

 

Follow my lead, I solved all the issues people wondered about involving the trade. If he goes to dallas, because dallas has the best offer, the rockets might as well start over period.

 

Sun's fan's think this is a good deal.J-Rich + Amare for Iggy + Brand

 

if the suns do that they will suck for 4 years.lets hope that happens because im not scared of memphis or okc , if that trade gets suns out of playoffs for years,then we have a cakewalk into playoffs for years to come.

and if philly does that wow are they stupid, they are trying to rebuild and shed salary, so "oh i know, lets take on MORE salary in amare who is washed up and MORE salary in jrich who is washed up"

wow. lose lose for both teams. suns should trade amare/jrich for young talent+expiring not take on brand for god sakes, and philly should take on expirings(tmac) or young talent +expiring., basically its 2 teams trading bad contracts for bad contracts.

 

Part of getting the good players on the market sometimes is ****-blocking your direct competition from getting better. Think Yankees and Red Sox.