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[Philly Inquirer] 76ers have to knock over Rockets with young talent (UPDATE: 1/13)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by worzel gummidge, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. Scarface281

    Scarface281 Member

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    Two young studs just for Dalembert? Yeah right. It's not going to happen/

    And we can let McGrady expire, but that doesn't do us good in the future. We won't have that much cap room and can't sign a FA that's as good as Iggy, either.
     
  2. brian_chapman

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    your right, we wont sign any big name FA. I think the rockets are Fked for the next 4 years and heres why:

    1.resigning yao for an extension for 4 years is so risky,he has health problems,and could be a 20,000,000 bad hit to the cap for 4 years

    2.ariza we already know is a bad hit 7,000,000 to the cap for 4 more years

    this team is going no where for 4 years. wait till 2014 when yao,ariza,battier,scola,anderson are all off the books,then maybe we can sign a big name free agent and start over.
     
  3. Convictedstupid

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    And if Iggy and Dalembert dont work as rockets? We're stuck with their crappy contracts. NTY.


    Thank God we have Daryl Morey. And I certainly dont believe we will be bad for the next 4 years.
     
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    And I honestly dont think we will get a Tmac/Cook for iggy/sammy/2 young players.

    I just think that trade is more realistic than us taking Iggy/sammy for tmac.
     
  5. Stevierebel

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    IF DM wanted AI9 and SD, then the trade would have been made by now...

    He's waiting for something else..
     
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    Something else from Philadelphia or something else?
     
  7. Dr of Dunk

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    Possibly Memphis-related? Or just a hunch?
     
  8. Scarface281

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    And if Iggy and SD don't work out? For one, Dalembert's contract expires next year. Second, there is no doubt in my mind that Iggy would work here. Much better than Ariza has. Do you agree with Morey on that acquisition?
     
  9. Scarface281

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    That's why I said TMAC/Cook/Ariza for Iggy/SD/Young or Speights or Holiday. Those young players Philly have are talented. They just have bad coaching. Don't look now, but they're starting to play well.
     
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    I dont agree with Morey (and Rick) on promising such a big role to Ariza.
     
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    Can someone post the link where it gives an explanation of why we don't want to keep tmacs contract. How the salary works and trade scenarios. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Its just that Iggy's and Dalembert's contracts are so bad that they are going to have to offer 2 instead of 1.

    I may do your proposed trade, but I dont see Morey doing it.
     
  13. Scarface281

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    They aren't terrible contracts. Dalembert's expires next year. Only Iggy's is a long term deal and he's just overpaid a little. If Dalembert didn't have that trade kicker, it'd be even better. That's really the only downside I'm seeing. They both fit needs that the Rockets have NOW. Why hold off on that? Wouldn't Dalembert's shot blocking have helped us last night against the Bulls?
     
  14. HTown_TMac

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    Im also thinking from a money stand point we give 2 expiring for 3 contracts which will put us in Lux Tax, right? Plus we will possibly lose both Lowry and Scola due to those contracts, so why not get help
     
  15. Stevierebel

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    DM understands chemistry... He knows that players hear the rumors, so he won't let them last for 2+ weeks without doing something about it if they were true.

    He wants a superstar for Tracy's contract and still holds out hope that he will get a superstar.

    And Ariza isn't going anywhere this year. I would start a new thread to say this but people would just question what I say... They are going to let him grow this year and see what he's like playing with Yao...

    And besides, why would DM trade someone when their perceived trade value is at its lowest? McGrady's contract it was teams are wanting, not Tracy so don't use him as your argument.
     
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    Dalembert is getting paid 11.6 mil this year with the 15% trade kicker and 12 mil next year.

    Say if we do get him and try and trade him next year. Is there another trade kicker? Or is that just with the team that signs him?

    Plus, we would not be able to resign Scola and Lowry with those 2 on the books. Unless another trade was made.
     
  17. Yak

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    If you actually believe that the Sixers will come knocking on Morey's door on Feb. 19th offering Iggy + Speights/Jrue + Young/Lou, then you're insane.

    You can be desperate to get rid of a contract, but there's no way in hell that a team that is already losing a ton of money will trade away their future for an expiring.

    And even if they were willing to give up some of their young studs, they are not going to trade them to the Rockets unless we offer up Landry or Brooks.

    But only the fan with common sense looks at it that way.....
     
  18. crash5179

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    Never say never:

    On February 1, 2008, Gasol was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers along with a 2010 second round draft pick for Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie, the rights to Marc Gasol (viewed as a second rounder at the time), and 2008 and 2010 first round draft picks (not much more than 2 second round picks).
     
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    Getting young talent doesn't always mean current players. Morey could switch draft places with them and they can keep the rest of their young talent. Morey would have a lottery pick and Philly would still get a draft pick around the late teens. Morey can then draft a top 10 lottery pick or use it in another trade for young talent.

    As things are now, the 76ers are a sinking ship will need a TARP bailout like GM and Chrysler.
     
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    I seen Young play i think Young/Iggy/Dalembert has a chance.

    They declined McGrady/Lowry/Cook for Iggy/Dalembert/Williams and it's do to they'd rather have Young over Williams. It's that seperation in salary that is the difference maker. The difference maker is the contracts salary commited of 11.3 million and that is the high-ball offer for Philly.

    I think they'll settle For McGrady/Lowry for Dalembert/Iggy/Speights

    They won't need Cook, because taking him on is taking on his salary i think Rox will just pay that extra and hang on to him and let him come off the books. So instead of 11.3 difference here between Young and Williams, they'll just take on Speights over Young and keep Cook. Or take on Young and keep Cook. The move has Houston offloading salary as much as possible to take on Dalembert.
     

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