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[Philly Inquirer] 76ers have to knock over Rockets with young talent (UPDATE: 1/13)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by worzel gummidge, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. BimaThug

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    Agreed. I heard that the Kings were interested in Dalembert. I wonder if this trade would be the least bit appealing to Sacramento:

    Houston gets: Andre Iguodala, Kenny Thomas
    Philly gets: Tracy McGrady, Sergio Rodriguez
    Sacramento gets: Samuel Dalembert

    My guess is that the Kings were probably just willing to trade their own bad contracts (Nocioni, Udrih) for Dalembert and not Kenny Thomas's expiring contract. Still, if they changed their mind, my guess is that Houston and Philly would do that deal.
     
  2. Rockets4279

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    I like this deal alot better than Chicago so far i would even do Richardson and Barbosa before Miller, Jones and Salmons.

    Chicago deal we take in alot of nothing hardly worth making a deal as we only after the deal produce 1 more win and it don't change even if you ask for Hinrich instead of Jones.

    Phoenix however produce Houston 7 more victories.

    This Philly one produce Houston alot more and your taking in alot of something and getting rid of alot of nothing.

    Miami deal with O'Neal only produce Houston 4 more victories and Miami lose twice as many.

    NY 3 more victories not worth the risk of taking in Curry not even at the expence for Gillinari and Harrington. If they still had that 1st round pick i would put NY first on my list.
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    Seems like each team is just doing nothing more than suggesting to other teams what its "dream deal" would be. As one might imagine, one team's dream deal is another team's "nightmare deal." If anything does happen, it's likely going to be quite different than the one-sided stuff being leaked right now.
     
  4. xiki

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    Seems like each team's writer is just doing nothing more than suggesting its "dream deal"...
     
  5. SA Rocket

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    That would be nice, but I'm guessing that would pretty much set next year's roster. Let KT expire, re-sign our own core players, get Yao back along with Iggy?

    So basically we'd be going forward with Iggy replacing TMac as Yao's sidekick?
     
  6. Mango

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    Likely so in regards to the <i>one-sided stuff</i> at the moment.


    Dalembert + <i>Odds & Ends</i> would make Philadelphia happy while
    Iguodala + <i>Odds & Ends</i> would make Houston happy.

    Somewhere in between those two extremes is a <i>Deal</i> if both sides give some ground and forgo trying for an optimal deal.

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    BimaThug

    Would that deal still be acceptable if Houston had to send money and/or a Draft Pick to the Kings to get KT's contract?
     
  7. Rip Van Rocket

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    I think some kind of deal with Philly could happen because the Philly press and fans seem to be getting behind this trade. It's going to get interesting to see what Morey can pull off.
     
  8. BimaThug

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    My guess is that Les would be willing to throw up to $3M in to sweeten the deal for Sacramento. Maybe Philly would, too, especially if they'd be getting Rodriguez, who would add a much-needed pure point guard to the Sixers. Not so sure about the Rockets being willing to add their 2010 first round pick, though. Maybe the higher of the Rockets' or Clippers' 2011 second rounder instead?
     
  9. xiki

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    Assuming for the minute that there is basis for this rumor, a deal only gets made if both teams are satisfied their interests have been served.

    Re: Sammy D ... if acquired, he has to be 're'-movable (with an expiring upcoming) and/or let us not diminish the reality that this current Rox squad is altitudinously challenged. (Please include DA in any deal!) [Dalembaert flipped to GS with Andersen for Biedrins/Maggette ... then flip Maggette; oh, life is so easy at the keyboard :grin: ]
     
  10. Mango

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    That sounds reasonable and if the deal is done sufficiently prior to the deadline, the Rockets would still have the opportunity to flip KT's contract to another team desperate to <i>move</i> a longer term contract. That could lead to some Luxury Tax considerations next Summer, but perhaps a trade offer would come up for KT's contract that the Rockets would have to think about it.
     
  11. Mango

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    Yes, but both teams would have to consider if it is better to make a <i>satisfactory deal</i> for both parties rather than no deal at all because one or both parties is holding out for their own <i>optimal deal</i> at the expense of the other.
     
  12. BimaThug

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    I'd imagine that, if the Rockets could net a star player like Iguodala for T-Mac's contract, they'd probably stand pat with AI and Thomas's expiring contract. The only other move I could see would be to trade either Brian Cook or Joey Dorsey to get under the LT threshold. This way, they have a decent chance to avoid the LT next season after re-signing Scola and Lowry to new deals next summer.
     
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    Both deals came from the Philly newspaper.
     
  14. Rockets4279

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    Hmmm hard to invision Sac town doing that deal Rockets and Sixers do it though even though Sixers lose 11 more games.
     
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    This is something else to consider if we include Dalembert in any deal with the Sixers, from another blog in Philly...

    http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/new...ers-could-be-among-suitors-for-mcgrady-2.html

    I'd think Les would sign off anyway, if push came to shove, but it's also understandable why Daryl wouldn't be thrilled to get Dalembert as part of a potential deal.
     
  16. rivo

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    tmac+budinger for iguodala+green+kapono
    philly get rid of 3 unexpiring contract, budinger could give them the needed 3p shooting.
    for rockets, iguodala, 25, is worth his long contract
     
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    uhh hate to break to you guys but Igoudala is not that great..hes a borderline all-star ( who by the way hasnt made the all-star team yet and its not looking like he will anytime soon) let alone no superstar in this league which is what the rockets need. hes not going to give you 25 a night i can guarantee you that

    hes a nice looking young player who would probably fit this offense nicely..HOWEVER..what do we then do with Ariza..they are almost the same type of player besides for Iggy being the better shooter..
     
  18. cjtaylorpt

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    Out of all of the rumors so far this is the first one in which I am excited about. Philly has a lot of good, young talent and I believe that Iggy is a player that would fit well on the Rockets at a price that is not bad at all for what he brings.

    I think that the Sixers can also solve part of our height with talent problem.

    Morey's patience is bringing in better deals.
     
  19. Aznoob

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    Yeah...Morey isn't going to give away Budinger.

    I want Thaddeus Young more than Iguodala though.
     
  20. thumbs

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    Personally, I wish people would quit including Chase in deal proposals. Feel free to add Taylor, Dorsey or even Hayes as sweeteners or throw-ins, but Chase has too much future. He is far, far better (and more cost effective) than Kapono.

    That said, if Philly would throw in Thadeus Young or Mareese Speights or their unconditional #1, I'd be sad but content to include him.

    Iggy + Dalembert + (one of) Young/Speights/#1
    for
    T-Mc + Lowry + (one of) Taylor/Dorsey/Hayes/.....Budinger.
     

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