[Philly Inquirer] 76ers have to knock over Rockets with young talent (UPDATE: 1/13)

That's exactly what I've been trying to say.

I'm sure if Morey had the option of trading Tracy for AI and Sam D that would be a done deal.

But obviously something is holding them back, which is why Morey wants young talent to be thrown in i.e. Speights or T. Young.

Apparently its not that easy.

 

Gosh, this is giving me a headache.
I'm glad Morey would never pull the trigger on TMac for Iggy+Dalembert (or Brand, or both).

Do any of you understand that if this trade were to happen we wouldn't be able to re-sign either Scola or Lowry this summer (without going over the LT bigtime, which Les won't do)?

So, essentially, you're giving up TMac+Scola+Lowry (maybe more) for Iguodala and some combo of Dalembert & Brand. Would you like to do that now?

 

No matter what decision is made... Morey is gonna have to give up to get...

Just like Morey is playing hard ball so are the other GM's...

 

in a world where you are only able to make one trade per season, yes. but that isn't the case. its possible he could do this deal as a part of a bigger deal, or involve other teams isn't it?

so for the time being, it's worth being aware of, even if it doesnt happen, because it gives us some idea on a) how the market looks, b) what the teams willing to take on tmac are offerince, and c) the national perspective of the situation.

yes, anyone who has been following this thread is aware of the cap situation. there are probably 50 posts in this thread talking about it. but that doesn't mean that a deal like this, or involving these players, couldn't work.

 

I highly doubt that. Les is not known to go over LT just for players like Iggy and Dalembert.

 

nevermind

 

Take a Tylenol and don't think so linearly, then.

Do YOU understand that Morey might pull the trigger IF he had a third team take Dalembert + Whomever for an expiring and a pick, OR a second trade worked out that made next year's luxury tax less of an issue?

I don't want to lose Scola, but Morey's comments in a 610 interview about 3 weeks back made me wonder if we can or will keep him.

 

Of course it's not easy. They aren't playing Roto-Ball. AI + SD would not net 6ers McG. IMHO if a deal then the following probably have to occur:

1 - SD waives his trade kicker
2 - Speights gets included
3 - Cook gets included

4 - Yao reworks contract to lower annuals while picking up years

5 - a 2nd deal is hatched. Whether to flip SD and/or to trade Scola and/or Lowry for contract stability going forward - Stuckey maybe? Martin? Someone else?

OK, not easy but doable if DM the GM and other GMs are motivated. IMHO they are, they are.

 

Is that even allowed per the CBA?

 

It's possible, but I seriously doubt any of those Philly player contracts end up in Houston. Everyone talks about the albatross contracts of Dalembert & Brand, but what about Iguodala? $56.5M over the next 4 years? I like Iggy as a player, but man, that contract just kills his asset value for me. No, thank you.

Never said it couldn't work. I'm just surprised that posters here are such strong proponents of these Philly pieces without weighing the true consequences. Adding Iggy & Dalembert for Tmac obviously is a win-win at face value, but it's not that simple.

To each his own, I guess.

 

Yes, player option this year IIRC thus he could opt out and sign new deal. Yao is probably team enough to be able to do this while protecting his financial position.

 

Question, is:

1 - possible, what would be the incentive for SD to waive the kicker

4 - possible, re-harping on what crash said

I'm sure we will have to get rid of Trevor Ariza or Shane Battier once this deal is done, if it ever comes to be.

We don't need 3 defending small forwards under contract for the next 2 years and beyond. So those will more than likely be the next to be on the block for a move, along with others....

 

Never. Gonna. Happen.

 

Philly makes the deal; Rox do not. Thus, for a deal to come down then Philly has to bargain a chip or two into the pot and accept a bad contract or two back. Make it SD/AI/Speights - McG/BC/JD and this year's total is: @3 mm less for Rox (with waiving of trade kicker).

But, next year would remain an issue particularly with Scola and Lowry coming up for new contracts. Thus, one or both would very possibly be moved and/or SD flipped for contract certainty.

A lot of pieces have to fluctuate to Rox long term interests while still serving trade partners' interests, as well. That's why they trade real people and we roto-deal.

 

That's assuming Les Alexander is unwilling to go over the cap to re-sign these guys. I don't think our tickets sales have been suffering as much as expected, and with Yao's return paired with Iguodala and rising stars Brooks/Landry, he may be willing to go all-in with Morey's roster even if it's over the cap.

 

I had no idea that was possible. I was directing my frustration at the crowd that doesn't understand why Morey won't bring Iguodala & Dalembert to Houston.

Yeah, this will be interesting and, of course, completely dependent on what roster changes are made in the coming months. I don't think Scola wants to leave. I want him here. I'd slot $8M for him and see how things unravel. I think Kyle would return with something around $3M.

But if Morey has a chance to jump on someone he really wants and has to part with assets in a TMac trade, I'd be surprised if one of them weren't involved.

 

We are all just guessing. Their moves are often out of left field, and usually spot-on.

 

I don't know any more. Some people seem so confident in their guesses that they're acting like it's the absolute truth.

 

Think of it this way: if Philly really really wants to be out from SD and AI and if DM the GM really really wants AI then somehow they, and a third? or fourth? team will get'r done. If the motivation is strong enough from 6ers side to start. If.

 

Can Someone Post the ESPN Inside Rumor involving TMAC. I dont see it has been posted.



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