[Philly Inquirer] 76ers have to knock over Rockets with young talent (UPDATE: 1/13)

This is one of the most nearsighted trade ideas I have seen yet(although I try and avoid reading the truly awful ideas).

...and why exactly would Philly trade proven youth(Speights - a 20/10 guy when he gets more than 30 minutes a game) for unproven youth(Dorsey & Taylor)? What did Speights do since being picked 16th overall in the draft in '08 that would merit him being worth two 2nd round picks who have barely sniffed the court. Did you not know that Speights is good or did you just think you were the only one who knew?

Philly isn't going to let go of it's best basketball player, it's best young player, AND a large expiring deal just to get McGrady and a couple of 2nd rounders. That makes no sense at all - I'm not even sure you could get that approved in video game land without the "cheat" on.

 

you don't think Philly is getting back too much trash in that deal? Taylor hasn't shown much, Dorsey is not committed, and McGrady is just a contract at this point. I think to make that deal palatable for Philly you'd have to replace Taylor with Budinger, so they get at least one serviceable player in return. just my opinion, though.

 

it's not illegal to have a registered firearm in your car in Philadelphia is it?

basically that dude borrowed speights' car, and got pulled over in it. shouldn't affect speights in any way i dont think.

 

...it's not like he was masturbating to p*rn while running into a parked car.

 

Well, if you are masturbating while running into a parked car while watching a movie, it kind of makes sense that it is p*rn. If the late Eddie G. was watching Sense and Sensibility it would just be weird.

 

During. Philly still has to play games this year and next so they will at least need someone to suit up as lord knows it isn't going to be McGrady. Battier's contract is small enough that I think it would still be within salary cap rules. Even if it isn't, philly could add a small expiring to make it fit. Also, Battier could be sent to a third team in a multiteam trade.

 

yknow, i wouldn't be surprised if it was actually Sense and Sensibility and they changed it to something more "normal" before reporting the story. dude was a little off.

RIP EG.

 

Could have been a soft p*rn version called Scents and Sensitivities. That actually sounds really disgusting...


...as a slight aside, my wife is a fan of A&E period piece movies and I'm pretty sure Sense and Sensibility is part of the "Romance Collection" I bought her for Christmas. Maybe Eddie was just a sensitive guy all along.

 

You can always dream. The lakers got gasol for kwame, gasol and two low 1st rounder (essentially second rounder except garunteed money.)

No one knew if gasol would be any good. Basically they trade gasol (their franchise player) for an expiring deal.

 

I'm sure this has been covered in some thread, but please help explain.

Is there an estimate of the tax threshold next season? Is it likely to go down from the 69.9 million.

Assuming a trade of McGrady for Iguodala/Dalembert, I have the guaranteed salary at about 65 million next year, which would include the following players:

1.) Andre Iguodala - 12.3
2.) Samuel Dalembert - 12.2
3.) Yao Ming - 17.7
4.) Shane Battier - 7.4
5.) Trevor Ariza - 6.3
6.) Carl Landry - 3.0
7.) David Andersen - 2.5
8.) Aaron Brooks - 2.0
9.) Chase Budinger - .8
10.) Jermaine Taylor - .8

Hayes has team option of 3 mil.
Scola is a restricted free agent.
Lowry is a restricted free agent.

Let me know if part of this is wrong/outdated. Just trying to see how you are saying the rockets will only be 5 million under the threshold even without Battier and Anderson. I have the salaries at about 55 mil without them.

 

You're math is generally correct, except that (1) Dalembert's cap figure will be about $14.2M after his track bonus kicks in; and (2) you need to count the salary scale slot of the Rockets' first round pick (~$1.5). Depending on how far the luxury tax threshold goes down, you're looking at about $5M in wiggle room. $6M, tops. That's not enough to bring back everyone. It's not worth just "dumping" Battier, Andersen, Hayes and at least one of Scola/Lowry, all so the Rockets can get Iguodala.

 

Thanks, knew I was forgetting something.

Agree on your points...just wanted to figure out why I was getting different numbers.

Repped.

 

...I still think the only reason more teams didn't scream collusion at the time is a huge stink would have to hurt the NBA significantly and thus the huge financial investments many of these owners have in their teams. It's the same reason more team owners can't call out Stern's refs - if a conspiracy is found, every owner, player, and GM in the league stands to lose from it even if they had nothing to do with it.

 

Damn Bima - your a cap-ologist!

 

Yes, during. Giving up an asset like Battier is what would entice a third team, especially one like the Blazers that need healthy bodies.

 

How about we get Iguodala with Dalembert. Then, since we can't resign both Lowry and Scola, assess who is the most important to the team, resign him, and do a s&t with the other.

As my economics teacher has always said: "To acquire an asset you need to give up something you value".

If giving up either Lowry or Scola for an impact player such as Iguodala and a backup for Yao is what it takes, i'm all for it.
And even though I love Lowry, he isn't more valuable than someone like Iggy.

 

Maybe I'm a little slow today but what sense would that make? If you sign-and-trade, let's say Lowry, means that you will get back a contract (more or less) equal to the one you are dealing away. So how does that save you money?

 

A pick? 2nd rounder? Its always better than nothing.

 

So we won't trade for Iggy and Sam unless Les is willing to pay, and the Sixers WILL NOT give us Young/Spreights, and is relucatant to include Iggy in the Sam deal.

Why we still talking?