1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Phillies call up Cole Hamels

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Clutch, May 10, 2006.

  1. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    22,669
    Likes Received:
    31,994
    http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/...t_id=1446834&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

    What's your call on how good this guy will be in the majors? He's had a lot of injury problems since 2003, but was always a stud prospect. He was promoted from A ball to AAA and literally dominated AAA in three games.

    I scooped him up in my fantasy league 3-4 weeks ago and got lucky... if you're playing fantasy baseball and for some reason he's still available, you probably shouldn't hesitate.
     
  2. Oski2005

    Oski2005 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2001
    Messages:
    18,100
    Likes Received:
    447
    I've been watching him too, but I don't know who I'd drop to get him. Not to mention he may not even be available in our league yet.
     
  3. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    22,669
    Likes Received:
    31,994
    It could be that the only thing that stops him is injuries... unless your roster is incredibly loaded, I would cut someone for the chance to see how he does. No time for a trade I don't think.

    I'm in an NL-only league though, so his value could be that of a top 5 starter in ours.

    Of course it's hard to say for sure what he will do in the majors -- he could always flop ... but the guy looks outstanding. They say he has an incredible changeup.
     
  4. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,925
    Likes Received:
    2,267
    Wasn't Hamels the guy the Astros really wanted in the Wagner trade? I know we ended up with Bucholz, who has done an outstanding job this year, but it will be interesting to watch the development of both guys. Also interesting to watch is the continuing clubhouse cancer that Wags is.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    87,492
    Likes Received:
    86,158
    Hamels & Gavin Floyd were the 2 guys Philly refused to trade.
     
  6. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    22,669
    Likes Received:
    31,994
    Interesting point bigtexxx... completely forgot about that.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/features/03top10s/astros.html

     
  7. rikesh316

    rikesh316 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    4,447
    Likes Received:
    36
    I wouldn't pick him up. I think he is going struggle early on and the ballpark in Philly is a hitters park.
     
  8. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    18,344
    Likes Received:
    13,720
    Pitchers with quality stuff always get one free pass around the league until everybody gets a good idea of what they throw.

    I'd look for him to have 5-10 really good games and then crap out for most of the rest of the season.
     
  9. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    22,669
    Likes Received:
    31,994
    Certainly possible... but from a fantasy perspective, I'd much rather pick him up and have him struggle than someone else pick him up and see him succeed.
     
  10. candlegreen

    candlegreen Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    1,527
    Likes Received:
    55
    Last night, I traded Prince Fielder for the waiver spot just to have a chance at him.
     
  11. Rocketball

    Rocketball Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 1999
    Messages:
    4,520
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Picked him up in my league a week or so ago - nothing to loose, everything to gain.
     
  12. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,337
    Likes Received:
    9,746
    his control still isn't great. 2/1 k/bb ratio and nearly 4.5 walks a game. that being said he can strikeout people and he is a great talent.
     
  13. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,084
    Likes Received:
    1,352
    or so you think! ha ha! ;)
     
  14. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,946
    Likes Received:
    1,365
    Teehee.

    Dude, are you in that league too? I'm so getting this guy now. :D
     
  15. bamaslammer

    bamaslammer Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    3,853
    Likes Received:
    3
    Prince Fielder was a first-day free agent pickup for me and......the rest as they say is history.
     
  16. RunninRaven

    RunninRaven Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    15,069
    Likes Received:
    2,753
    Wow, that's Ryan-esque on the K:BB ratio with as high a K rate as he gets.
     
  17. Little O

    Little O Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    1
    Little confused? Are you talking about Cole Hamels?

    Cole has a 65:10 k/bb ratio right now. And if you just go on AAA starts it's 36:1.

    Maybe Taylor Buchholz????

    Sorry Phillies phan excited about Hamels. We take any excitement we can get with out pitiful records over the past century.
     
  18. francis 4 prez

    francis 4 prez Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2001
    Messages:
    22,025
    Likes Received:
    4,552
    he doesn't appear to exist in yahoo fantasy baseball.


    my team has gone from 1st (out of 9) early in the season to making a 3rd to 8th plunge in one day (yesterday) thanks to my pitchers throwing up some of the worst ERA's ever (i have millwood, yay!) in a short period of time. and amazingly in a 5 day period, 3 pitchers i benched got complete game wins (including one against saint freakin' louis and another by the very same millwood). the hitters are all slumping as well.

    people with far crappier rotations are now outperforming mine so i figure i may as well take a shot with this hamels dude but he doesn't exist yet so i'll probably lose out on him.
     
  19. wrath_of_khan

    wrath_of_khan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2000
    Messages:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    7
    Philly sports radio has been talking about Hamels nonstop for a week now.

    Since the locals don't have anything to gripe about during a 9-game win streak, they've been calling in every five seconds to talk radio to ask why he hasn't been called up. This, after 2 starts at AAA. FWIW, I did hear his AAA coach on the radio this morning and he said that Hamels was ready.

    Well, they got their wish. Let's see what happens.

    Personally, I hope he flames out in case we're fighting with the Phillies for the Wild Card. If Hamels gives the Phils a true #2 or even #1 starter, that squad is pretty tough.

    FYI, here are his numbers in AAA: 0.39 ERA, 10 hits in 23 innings; 36 strikeouts and one walk. :eek:


    FWIW, when Tom Verducci was interviewed on the local 950 about Hamels, the conversation drifted to Clemens, and Verducci said without hesitation that he thinks Rocket ends up in Houston.
     
  20. BobFinn*

    BobFinn* Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2000
    Messages:
    11,438
    Likes Received:
    6
    I was at the (Scranton) Red Barons game the other night when he pitched. He is the "Real Deal"

    If he is available in your fantasy league, grab him.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now