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Phil Jackson is the best coach available for Yao/TMac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fa7999, Nov 17, 2004.

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  1. gucci888

    gucci888 Member

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    PJ would probably sell the TC out everynight. I'm sure that is something Les would like to see.

    And for those who say PJ wouldn't want to coach here, it doesn't make any sense.

    This is a team that could be molded into championship material real quick with the right coach.

    PJ wants more rings. The chance to have Yao and TMac working the triangle offense w/o the selfishness is probably a dream for him. He said he would be interested in the Knicks and they are no where near being contendors, or even being good.
     
  2. daoshi

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    Because the guy couldn't be a head coach in this league. It doesn't matter if you have a system on paper, every coach in this league does. The trick is to be able to tailor a system for the players you have, and have them buy into it. PJ did that in Chicago with the guards, did it again in LA with the center.

    It's like in school, all students & teachers have the same text books. Some teachers teach better, some student get better grades.
     
  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    For me, JVG gets this season to show improvement in the team. Keep in mind though, the team the way it is assembled right now can only go so far. Clearly we are missing pieces, but have a nice ground work. But we have to see some improvement nonetheless.

    If JVG cant get Yao+T-mac to be a devistating combo, then it is on him.

    I hate his whining, but I am all for Phil Jackson if JVG fails to show improvement with this team by the "end of the season".
     
  4. YallMean

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    Define improvement. Making the palyoff, but not the 2nd round, is that an improvment over last year? Beat spurs, will that be an improvment? We already had improvement this year, didnt we, beat Kings which we couldnt even for once last year, and Griz twice which we only beat once last year.

     
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    For me at least, I am lookin at I think at minimum we have to make the playoffs AND be competitive in the first round. At LEAST take it to 5 games win or lose. But ideally we would bust through to the second round. That is the next step.

    Despite our lack of athleticism on the team, a team with Yao+T-Mac has to be able to make some noise. We have to be able to dominate the majority of the Eastern Conference teams and play competitively with the Western Conference teams.
     
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    The big man should have had the ball in the closing minutes. There so much that could have been done to prevent the outcome. It's a crying shame.

    I mean that - JVG looked like he was ready to cry.:(
     
  7. YallMean

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    My improvement list for offense

    1. No clown-azz PG skids while dribbling. check
    2. No dribbling deep into the clock by PG. check
    3. Starts offense earlier. Urrr
    4. Less turnovers. Urrr
    5. Good shot selection. Urrr

    If we could achieve these things on the offensive end, we will be alright. We play the whole season, not just several games. A good win will make up for a bad loss.

     
  8. gucci888

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    "It's not like Vandeweghe wouldn't have other options. Phil Jackson, for instance. I'm hearing Jackson's people have contacted a handful of NBA teams, the Nuggets among them, to gauge potential interest. Vandeweghe isn't commenting, but my sense is he wouldn't go there. ..."

    http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~102~2539812,00.html
     
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  9. DavidS

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    Uh, no. The triangle does NOT just give the ball to the *best* player. It gets the best shot for the team. This is why guys like Jordan and Kobe did not like the triangle because it restricted their "creativity" on the floor. Phil had to convince those two guys that they had to play as a unit if they wanted to win. The triangle tries to get the highest percentage shot available; open shots. But the players still have to knock them down. They just dont magically go in just because we are running, drum-roll please....*The Triangle!*

    The Triangle is a complex offense that requires everyone to be involved. There is constant motion and no one should be standing around. It also requires smart players (something Francis would have died from). When it's time for ISO (crunch time), the triangle is put aside. Phil would also go to the pick and roll. Which is something we use exclusively today.

    Just wanted to point this out since you brought up Francis complaining that our offense was "too complex." The triagle doesn't make things easier. It takes work and smarts to run that offense.
     
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    Well what ever it is, it's gotten him 9 rings.

    I might have used the wrong word with "complex," but I remember reading Francis saying "JVG was making the game hard."
     
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    I think Tmac and Yao would definitely flourish under the coaching of Phil Jackson... i mean he does have 9 rings.
     
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    Rudy's cotnract was bought out I thought. Meaning Les still paid the man.
     
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    When? I remembered that the rockets put him as a scout after stepping down from the head coach. Then when the Lakers asked, Les let him leave as a courtesy. In that case, RudyT shouldn't get paid from Les after he went to LA.
     
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    Oh, yeah... I forgot... bring in the coach... i mean he did win all 9 rings by himself... no one helped him, right? :rolleyes:

    Are you sure this is your best attempt at arguing into bringing Phil I-only-coach-superstar-teams-so-I-can-look-good Jackson? GIMME A BREAK!!!!! :mad:

    In that case, bring in HAKEEM... i mean he does have 2 rings... :mad:

    I wanna see all of yous come back in 30 games and post this again when our ROX demolish the entire EASTERN conferences... :mad:... as a matter of fact, let me quote all you in my sig... :mad:

    EDIT: There. It's ready, gucci888. :D

    GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!
     
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  15. gucci888

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    You're an idiot.
     
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    OK. Since you raised your hand first, here we GO... :D I warned you...
     
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    Swol your sig is not needed . We are all on the same side because we want to win games. JVG just isnt the guy to do it. Even if we win games and get to the playoffs, I think there would always be any easier way with PJ or a few other coaches. He makes the game too slow and puts our players in too many bad situations where they end up turning the ball over. This was the case last year and will continue to be the case. He should go. I liked him at first but then I realized that he sucks. You will probably realize it too someday and hope that we will let you live it down. I wont call you an idiot but you seem to be wanting that label.
     
  18. porsche911

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    How does Hakeem have to do with bringing in Phil Jackson? Hakeem doesn't even have the physical ability of the past to play in the league anymore, whereas Phil Jackson possesses excellent coaching ability, mindset, and focus that the Rockets absolutely need. We need a coach who knows what he is doing and its hard for me to see this in JVG.
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    Turn on your Sarcastic-O-Meter. (that wasn't sarcastic, btw) :rolleyes:
     
  20. porsche911

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    I have absolutely no idea as to what you are saying. It'd be nice if you said something revelant for once.
     
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